[DTW] Bant Survival

[Jak]

Anger is entirely useless without survival. Drawing it in the first few turns suck, and it makes a lot more hands unkeepable. For the elves deck, getting awkward hands with anger and squee was the motivating reason to try a Survival-less build.

So true. Consider my mind changed on wanting to try it. I totally forgot why this deck is good.

[Kuma]

Question:

How do you beat Landstill w/CounterTop with this deck?

I gave it a try at a local tournament yesterday, and I lost to Landstill twice. He just answered everything I played.

[Enigma]

You need to have your Survival stick and it's better if you run the Faerie package (4x Spellstutter, 2x Clique). I also run Genesis in SB for this MU.

P-M

[Solaran_X]

Has anyone tried Stoic Angel in the sideboard for heavy aggro matches?

[Wargoos]

Hi, Im currently peeking for a new deck and my vision dropped on this and zoo.
Which of the decks performs better in a random meta?
Which are benefits does this deck possibly has over zoo?

I would appreciate an answer,
regards.

[Waikiki]

This deck has answers to almost everything which is some advantage in a random meta.

@stoic angel. Sounds interesting if you expect alot of aggro maybe it could even do pretty decent vs merfolk. Ill have to try it out.

Vs landstill good cards are (Wonder, teeg!!, clique, sprites and genesis)

[majikal]

Played tonight and got 2nd in the Mana Drain tournament in Chattanooga.

Here's the list for reference:

4x Noble Hierarch
3x Spellstutter Sprite
2x Qasali Pridemage
4x Tarmogoyf
3x Rhox War Monk
1x Trygon Predator
1x Squee
1x Wonder
1x Rafiq of the Many

4x Survival of the Fittest
4x Force of Will
4x Brainstorm
4x Swords to Plowshares
3x Spell Snare
3x Ponder

4x Misty Rainforest
4x Windswept Heath
4x Tropical Island
3x Savannah
1x Tundra
1x Island
1x Forest

SB:
2x Ravenous Trap
2x Pithing Needle
2x Vendilion Clique
3x Path to Exile
3x Gaddock Teeg
1x Trygon Predator
2x Umezawa's Jitte

I'm quite pleased with the Sideboard, and I ended up using everything in it to great success all night. The metagame was quite varied, and we didn't have any random Standard decks show up, which was nice. All in all, it seemed pretty healthy without any notable archetypes missing except for storm combo.

Round 1 vs. Bob with Reanimator w/ Entomb.

G1: He wins the die roll and starts with Fetch for Badlands, Entomb -> Iona. He plays Chrome Mox imprinting something black and then casts Reanimate. It's in and he blindly calls Blue since he heard me joking about mulling into FoW before the tournament started. Sad times for him when I Swords it and win with little men.

SB: I sided something out for 2x Ravenous Trap. Didn't take good enough notes here.

G2: He leads with land, go. On my turn I play a fetch and pass the turn. On his next turn he plays another land and casts Burning Wish, which I Spell Snare. He never sees any more business and I get there with a Rhox War Monk.

1-0

Round 2 vs Robert with Canadian Thresh.
I lent him the cards for the deck, so we drew.

1-0-1

Round 3 vs Doc with Team America

Game 1: I go first and lead with a turn 1 Hierarch, followed by Survival on turn 2 with Daze mana open and FoW backup. This game goes on for a while and I eventually overwhelm him with Survival advantage and flying Goyfs.

SB: OUT -> Trygon Predator, 1x Rhox War Monk. IN -> 2x Vendilion Clique

Game 2: He cracks his fetch and plays Ponder, and I start again with turn 1 Hierarch. This time he Darkblasts my Hierarch and Wastelands my next two lands. I don't recover and he beats me to death with Tombstalker.

Game 3: This starts the same way as game 2, only he draws a lot of Hymn to Tourach and some Diabolic Edicts along with his Wastelands. I stick a Survival, but his Hymns had eaten my hand at that point. Before I can draw creatures to take advantage of it, he Grips it and drops a Stalker. Somehow, miraculously, I managed to Swords his Tombstalker while I was at 3 life, flash in a Spellstutter Sprite followed by a Noble Hierarch on my turn, and start pecking away at his life total. He hard casts Snuff Out on my Spellstutter at some point but I've got another one by then and cast it on his EOT and topdeck a V. Clique to seal the deal after his next draw step.

2-0-1

Round 4 vs. Mark with Ichorid

Game 1: I win the die roll and play a Noble Hierarch off of a basic Forest. Luckily he has no idea what I'm playing, so on his turn he casts Cabal Therapy naming Tarmogoyf (he took a shortcut here and named as he announced the spell). I don't have any, so I let it resolve and show him my hand full of Pridemage, Squee, Rhox War Monk, Misty Rainforest and Force of Will. On my turn I draw into Brainstorm, fetch a Tropical, play a Pridemage and say go. His turn he plays Putrid Imp, dumping a bunch of dredge guys into his grave and flashes back his Cabal Therapy. I respond with Brainstorm and put my FoW on top of my library after drawing into more creatures and a Survival. He names FoW (predictably) and I show him my now-FoWless hand. I stick a Survival and a Pridemage and by the time he has enough Bridges in his graveyard to do anything I'm able to sac Pridemage (killing my own Survival though) and hold off his Ichorids with Rhox War Monk until I can fly over with an exalted SSS for the win.

SB: Out -> 4x Survival, Squee, Wonder, Trygon Predator. IN -> 2x Ravenous Trap, 3x Gaddock Teeg, 2x Umezawa's Jitte.

G2: I mulligan into Ravenous Trap. He opens with Gemstone Mine and Putrid Imp, which I FoW. Bait taken, I guess. He drops LED, but passes the turn. I play a Noble Hierarch and say go. He sticks on one land, passes the turn. I drop a Pridemage on my turn and send it back to him. I figure something's up at this point. Either he's got something in his hand that he really needs or he's got a trick. I was right. He plays Firestorm on his turn, pitching a Stinkweed Imp and a Grave Troll to take out my Pridemage and Hierarch. In response, I sac Qasali to nuke his LED, and he cracks it in response for blue, dumping an Ichorid, a Bridge From Below, and a Deep Analysis. I allow Firestorm to resolve, and as his Bridge trigger is on the stack I Ravenous Trap him before he's able to flash back his Deep Anal. He scoops it up.

3-0-1

Top 4
Round 1 vs Tina w/ Burn.
G1: She burns me a lot, and then I stick a Goyf and a RWM and win.
SB: OUT ->Survival package. IN -> 2x Jitte, 2x Path to Exile (She has Hellspark Elemental and Goblin Guides), 2x V. Clique
G2: More of the same, she burns me down to 1 this time before I stabilize with RWM and Jitte. She tried to Vortex, but I had the Pridemage.

4-0-1

Round 2 vs Doc's Team America again.
This match plays out almost identically to the first one, only I don't miraculously recover in game three. Sad Face. He seemed happy to win the Mana Drain though!

4-1-1


Some thoughts: I need to work on my Mana Base. I need plenty of green sources, but at the same time I feel like I really need a basic Plains. I might cut the Tundra for one, as I never really felt I had trouble getting blue mana.

[Waikiki]

congratulations, really glad my list with snares worked for you. Any more thoughts on the snares how where they for you ? Also if you do -tundra +savannah you would be having my exact list ;) I dont think tundra is needed anymore now that we have misty rainforest.

[majikal]

Snare was amazing for me all night, really. It hit everything from Goyf to PoP, Hymn to Tourach, and much, much more. The only matchup where I felt it was completely useless was Dredge, and would have gladly traded them in for Spell Pierce. Coincidentally, Path to Exile was the weakest card in my sideboard, so I might switch those out for Spell Pierce.

4 Savannah actually seems really good. That pretty much guarantees I can't get locked out of green by Wasteland. I'll give it a shot.

[Waikiki]

I think you got matchups where path didn't shine as much. I would certainly keep them in when facing faeries/goblins and other creature heavy decks.

the tundra could also be a basic plains which gives you the needed stp mana under mana denial plans.

@all

Where are you guys from btw? I'm interested how far my build has reached so far hehe.

[majikal]

I'm from Tennessee, USA. Not a terribly large Legacy scene here, but I'm working on that. :)

[jeanbathez]

@all

Where are you guys from btw? I'm interested how far my build has reached so far hehe.

Only Germany

btw here is my new list :

// Lands
4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
4 [U] Tropical Island
2 [U] Savannah
2 [ZEN] Forest (1)
1 [ZEN] Island (4)
1 [ZEN] Plains (3)

// Creatures
1 [BOK] Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
3 [LRW] Spellstutter Sprite
1 [DIS] Trygon Predator
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
2 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
1 [MM] Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 [ALA] Rafiq of the Many
3 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
1 [JU] Wonder

// Spells
4 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
4 [MM] Brainstorm
2 [LRW] Ponder
4 [AL] Force of Will
4 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
3 [DIS] Spell Snare

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [PY] Spore Frog
SB: 2 [CFX] Path to Exile
SB: 1 [JU] Genesis
SB: 2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 1 [SHM] Faerie Macabre
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 2 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 1 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
SB: 2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg


not sure about the spéll snares main..

@ all, what were your experiences with spell pierce ?

[XiaN]

Spell Pierce was kind of weak for me. Tested them too, but it's not that good in an aggro only meta

My current list for a meta mostly containing Aggro. And i'm from Berlin, Germany.

Deck: Mirari's Call

Lands
4 x Misty Rainforest
4 x Windswept Heath
4 x Tropical Island
4 x Savannah
1 x Forest
1 x Plains

Creatures
4 x Noble Hierarch
4 x Tarmogoyf
3 x Rhox War Monk
3 x Vendilion Clique
2 x Spellstutter Sprite
1 x Trygon Predator
1 x Eternal Witness
1 x Rafiq of the Many
1 x Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 x Wonder

Goodies
4 x Swords to Plowshares
4 x Brainstorm
3 x Ponder
4 x Force of Will
4 x Survival of the Fittest
2 x Umezawa's Jitte

Sideboard
4 x Mindbreak Trap
4 x Path to Exile
2 x Qasali Pridemage
2 x Krosan Grip
1 x Rhox War Monk
1 x Gaddock Teeg
1 x Meddling Mage

Deckstatistik anzeigen

[Jak]

What's up with calling that Mirari's Call?

[TheBirdMan]

Jak your first post list has only 59 cards mb what is the 60th card also is this list out dated?

[Jak]

Jak your first post list has only 59 cards mb what is the 60th card also is this list out dated?

I'll update that when I'm not on my phone but it's...

-1 Tundra
-1 Sprite

+3 Spell Snare

Snares could be Ponders as well.

[sdematt]

Vancouver, BC.

I took this to a local tourney, and unfortunately, I got dominated. Through no fault of the deck, I think, but just horrible draws (I got wastelanded, then didn't draw another blue land for the rest of the game with all blue in hand). I plan to play it again, but that kind of disappointed me. Before and after the tournament, though, the games I played were good.

I'm running:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
4 [A] Tropical Island
2 [A] Savannah
2 [ALA] Forest (3)
1 [7E] Island (2)
1 [MR] Plains (1)

// Creatures
1 [ALA] Rafiq of the Many
3 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
1 [DIS] Trygon Predator
1 [JU] Genesis
1 [10E] Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 [JU] Wonder
4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
1 [FD] Eternal Witness
2 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
2 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
4 [LRW] Spellstutter Sprite
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
1 [ARB] Winged Coatl

// Spells
4 [EX] Survival of the Fittest
4 [CST] Brainstorm
4 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
4 [AL] Force of Will
2 [M10] Ponder

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
SB: 1 [DIS] Trygon Predator
SB: 3 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 3 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 [BOK] Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
SB: 1 [LRW] Sower of Temptation


I know Winged Coatl seems a little subpar, but it's saved my ass many times (Goyf, Tombstalker, Mongoose, etc.). I definitely like the deck, and will continue playing it (since I had most of the cards anyway). Thanks for putting this primer together you guys!

[XiaN]

What's up with calling that Mirari's Call?

ZOMG, i want to steal the decklist, relabel it and tell all people i've inventeted it!

Well uhmn .. no. Its simply the name i sign in on tournaments. Its an homage to the Onslaught/Odysee storyline where Mirari and especially its "call" destroys all sorts of people/places/worlds

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And sdematt : That just happens from time to time. Same happend to me on a big german tournament, where the deck keeps floating lands to my hand ... for over 7 matches ( >14 games! ). Couldn't get rid of it, even after numerous pile shuffles before every match. Sometimes Murphy strikes hard

[crow_mw]

Oh, no, sdematt - please come back to black builds :<

[Jokemon]

Im from Växjö, Sweden.
Love this deck alot. Here's my newest list after some more testing:

4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Qasali Pridemage (i've placed Trygon in the SB, the Pridemage is pure awesome and Trygon shines only in a few match-ups)
3 Spellstutter Sprite
1 Wonder
1 Vendilion Clique
2 Rhox War Monk
1 Rafiq of the many
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob

4 Survival of the fittest

2 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Spell Snare (Works like a charm, tried Spell Pierce and i didn't like it. Spell Snare counters most of the relevant threats)
4 Swords to plowshares

3 Forest
1 Plains
1 Island
3 Tropical Island
2 Savannah
1 Tundra
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Windswept Heath

SB
3 Krosan Grip
2 UMezawa's Jitte
2 Gaddock Teeg (prolly will add a 3rd in the board)
1 Trygon Predator
1 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Genesis
1 Spellstutter sprite (i want to add a fourth instead of a Clique i vs control)
1 Llawan, Cephalid Empress (my favourite SB-card! good against Merfolk, Meat-Hooks, Faeries (which is the new Tier 1 deck in Sweden) and not the least Progenitus!)
2 Tormod's Crypt (the slot I change alot, depending on meta)