Obligatory shitty card creation thread

[TotallySweet]

Tiny Annoying Doodad

Artifact Creature - Doodad

Whenever you shuffle your library, you may have target opponent shuffle his or her library.
Whenever a player shuffles his or her library, Tiny Annoying Doodad deals 1 damage to them.

"I wish I could hate you to death."
1/1

o_O

[Hiis]

Deadly Storm of Death

Sorcery

Deadly Storm of Death deals 5 damage to all creatures.



Go go mono red control

[Phoenix Ignition]

Tiny Annoying Doodad

Artifact Creature - Doodad

Whenever you shuffle your library, you may have target opponent shuffle his or her library.
Whenever a player shuffles his or her library, Tiny Annoying Doodad deals 1 damage to them.

"I wish I could hate you to death."
1/1

o_O

Ahahahaha this is freaking sweet! Make it a mythic rare just to spite people even more. This would be such a fun card to build a deck around (along with the other damage-shuffler card). Crappy deck, yes, but so much win.

[heroicraptor]

Would certainly make Wild Mongrel playable again... lol...

No it wouldn't. "Players can't discard cards." is a different statement from "If a player would discard a card, instead they don't." The first stops Wild Mongrel's ability, the second makes Wild Mongrel a Graham's Number/Graham's Number.

[Phoenix Ignition]

No it wouldn't. "Players can't discard cards." is a different statement from "If a player would discard a card, instead they don't." The first stops Wild Mongrel's ability, the second makes Wild Mongrel a Graham's Number/Graham's Number.

Oops, misread it.

In that case I wouldn't probably run it, for fear of AdN going nuts on me with 4 Black Lotus.

[Aggro_zombies]

Oops, misread it.

In that case I wouldn't probably run it, for fear of AdN going nuts on me with 4 Black Lotus.

I don't think that works either, since discarding is also part of LED's activation cost. Having it be a mana ability doesn't change the fact that you can't pay the cost for it.

EDIT: "Sacrifice Lion's Eye Diamond, Discard your hand: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool. Activate this ability only any time you could cast an instant."

[Phoenix Ignition]

So it would be a static ability? Or a replacement effect? If it's a replacement effect LED would still work right?

[TotallySweet]

It's not a replacement, otherwise it would read: If a player would discard a card, he or she doesn't instead.

[Maveric78f]

Would certainly make Wild Mongrel playable again... lol...

I really thought it was sarcasm. I found it funny. I'm sad it wasn't.

And yes, Barook is the best card designer of this thread. I had already noticed it.

[Barook]

And yes, Barook is the best card designer of this thread. I had already noticed it.

Thanks.

I just realized that the card would also have broken possibilities with blue draw that discards afterwards. Breakthorugh would be basically an Ancestral Recall on steroids.

[Maveric78f]

Thanks.

I just realized that the card would also have broken possibilities with blue draw that discards afterwards. Breakthorugh would be basically an Ancestral Recall on steroids.

Yeah. Let me take back what I said. You're a bad designer after all ^^.

The wording could be:
Opponents can't discard.
If a spell or ability an opponent controls would cause you to discard a card, instead you don't.

[Barook]

Yeah. Let me take back what I said. You're a bad designer after all ^^.

The wording could be:
Opponents can't discard.
If a spell or ability an opponent controls would cause you to discard a card, instead you don't.

I don't think it would broken enough to change the effect. Most of those cards aren't good enough for themselves. It would also ruin the entire symmetry thing.

[(nameless one)]

It's like llanowar elves, except that it gives 1 mana first turn, 2 mana second turn, 3 mana third turn etc.... While at the same time improving your draws by removing land. If it put it into your hand I would say it would be balanced.

I actually dont mind if the land (or basic land for balanced purposes) is put into hand. Although if a card like that were to see print, It might enable a new Parfait archetype.

Anti-discard Dude
Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever a player discards a card, exile it instead. At the beginning of each player's end step, return those cards to their owner's hand.
2/2

Not sure how to word it exactly, but it should work like this:
Hose discard like Hymn or Thoughtseize on the one hand, but also stuff that requires discard as additional or activation cost (e.g. Survival, LED, etc.).

Fixed or more broken?

Tiny Annoying Doodad

Artifact Creature - Doodad

Whenever you shuffle your library, you may have target opponent shuffle his or her library.
Whenever a player shuffles his or her library, Tiny Annoying Doodad deals 1 damage to them.

"I wish I could hate you to death."
1/1

o_O

A card that could break Cosi's Trickster! could...

[santeria]

Tiny Annoying Doodad

Artifact Creature - Doodad

Whenever you shuffle your library, you may have target opponent shuffle his or her library.
Whenever a player shuffles his or her library, Tiny Annoying Doodad deals 1 damage to them.

"I wish I could hate you to death."
1/1

o_O

creature ? it should probably be in the rack/vise/doll family.

[TotallySweet]

I mercifully made it a creature so that it would be easier to kill. I mean you can already trinket mage it up...

[Barook]

Anti-discard Dude
Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever a player discards a card, exile it instead. At the beginning of each player's end step, return those cards to their owner's hand.
2/2

More broken and completely misses the point. It should hose discard AND cards that require discard as costs - your card still hoses discard, but makes the latter cards that don't rely on their graveyard even better. E.g. when you discard your dudes to survival, you get also get the discarded creatures back - it would be basically a better Squee. It also breaks Cycling in halfs.

I really don't see why the blue discard-draw is suddenly a problem in a format where you can get two-mana two-card combos that do far more broken things for you.

[umbowta]

Anti-discard Dude
Creature - Human Cleric
Players can't discard cards.
2/2

Not sure how to word it exactly, but it should work like this:
Hose discard like Hymn or Thoughtseize on the one hand, but also stuff that requires discard as additional or activation cost (e.g. Survival, LED, etc.).

How about

Eternal Shepherd
Legendary Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever target opponent would discard a card, exile it instead. If a spell or ability an opponent controls causes you to discard a card you may return target card from your graveyard to your hand.

At the beginning of your upkeep, if Eternal Shepherd is in your graveyard, you may pay to return Eternal Shepherd to your hand.
2/2

[johanessen]

Whenever target opponent would discard a card, exile it instead.

Whenever an opponent discards a card, exile it instead of putting into it's owner's graveyard.

Is that better?

[Nihil Credo]

To the best of my knowledge, "players can't discard cards" works fine as a wording, just like "players can't gain life" (Sulfuric Vortex) or "players can't search their library" (Mindlock Orb).

In all of those cases, effects that cause those actions instead do nothing, and costs involving those actions can't be paid.

For balancing purposes, I'd just add the ability: "Players* can't draw more than one card each turn", unless there is some cheap pseudo-drawing + discard spell I forgot about.

* Could be "you", but the symmetry is more elegant.

[umbowta]

To the best of my knowledge, "players can't discard cards" works fine as a wording, just like "players can't gain life" (Sulfuric Vortex) or "players can't search their library" (Mindlock Orb).

In all of those cases, effects that cause those actions instead do nothing, and costs involving those actions can't be paid.

For balancing purposes, I'd just add the ability: "Players* can't draw more than one card each turn", unless there is some cheap pseudo-drawing + discard spell I forgot about.

* Could be "you", but the symmetry is more elegant.

So at EOT what do I do with the 8th card in my hand?