Baneslayer sounds really tempting and I wanna conform and all but they're so expensive! I doubt the price of them will ever go down =/
Stax, stax, stax.. JENNNNGAAAAA!!!
You could always go with exalted angel. She is very easy to get out and she can turn around a game against aggro just like Baneslayer. Unfortunatly she will probably go down in price a bit but not much. good luck.
Excuse me? Are we all new at Magic here? Baneslayer is a card that works in like one eternal deck, and her slot there is contested. In other words, it's only a matter of time.
Let's talk about some recent chase rares: Bitterblossom is now less than half the price it was at its peak. Cryptic Command is now less than half the price it was at its peak. Cards that go in many decks (fetches, duals) and those that can be easily splashed in (Tarmogoyf) stay pricey. Thoughtseize is generally useful and splashable, but even it has gone down a bit. I just don't see Baneslayer staying at $60.
Most people blindly suggest new cards for decks. True contributors also suggest what to remove. It's not about what's good, but rather what's better than the current selections.
Yes you are correct but it gets played plenty in extended, also its a choice card among casual players. Casuals seek out this card as much as competitive constructed players. (Baneslayer doesnt seel for $60 it sells for $40.) She will always be a card many people will want to hold on to.Originally Posted by kirbysdl
Yes, and if she gets reprinted in M11 (and after Jund rotates our of Standard), I suspect she'll remain a $40-50 chase rare.
Anyway, I've decided to sell this deck for a playset of Tundra and a playset of Flooded Strand. Stax is just too inconsistent for my tastes. It's been fun guys.
Noooo~~ :( What are you planning to play then? Landstill.. countertop..? Stax > those!
Stax, stax, stax.. JENNNNGAAAAA!!!
He'll be back. I have both those built as well and Stax is by far the most fun to play. I dont see why he cant play them both.
I saw some lists with Karakas but i didnt understand why they are using them, can anybody tell me why? ;)
I was testing a list that uses 3 Magus and 2 Exalteds(baneslayers are much expensive), but i decided to change to 4 magus and 1 exalted because I really missed a fourth magus, since the bests decks in legacy today are aggro, merfolk, zoo, goblins... It helped me a lot and I wouldnt run less then four of them. I tried a list using 6 creatures, with 2 exalted, cutting 1 trinesphere, but a first turn trinesphere is very nice, so i added a fourth trinesphere and reduced the exalteds to 1.
I've been playing with this deck and I noticed that one of the problems i had was against decks that uses crucible of worlds, loam, and this Land/graveyard strategy. Sometimes i really miss a fourth ring, but i reallly dont know what to remove.
What you guys think about Elspeth?
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You can bounce Iona with it.
Gaddock Teeg too.
Yea, what the people above me have said. We can bounce Iona and Gaddock Teeg which are the most annoying creatures against stax in my opinion. I sideboarded a 4th Magus instead of maindecking it due to the tight list :x I've tried elspeth and didn't like it since it costs two white and since we are playing elspeth we also need moat if we're playing. And moats are crazy expensive like ravages, but I think ravages are a better investment over time. I've tried exalted angel before.. but I would rather go for Kotr. Though I am not too sure about baneslayer.
Stax, stax, stax.. JENNNNGAAAAA!!!
Has anyone tried Bojuka Bog yet? I'm thinking of running it as a one of.
If I run a single scrubland than perhaps the deck can support running Leyline of the Void SB like Q-Ball suggested...
That would provide 6 black sources to the deck. Scrubland can be searched for by Flagstone and Bog can be fetched by KotR if anyone still runs it.
Bog would be a recursive uncounterable way to deal with graveyards.
Not a bad idea.
Ive been trying to make the aggro match winable. For me, this means 6-8 propaganda affects, 5-6 armageddons, suppresion fields, and even possibly a DoJ/WoG. This of course weakens the hell out of a few other matchups.
I'm now testing KotR and I must say he really helps quite a bit, he's like a lodestone of sorts, a good heavy beater that must be answered, but with less utility in this deck I feel.
Ive thought about a version with black I dont know if its worth going that route yet.
My concern would be that it doesn't produce white, unlike the Canopy and Savannah "splash lands" that Wg lists use. The recursion and uncounterable nature are appealing, but shrug. If you end up testing it, please let us know what you see. =)
Most people blindly suggest new cards for decks. True contributors also suggest what to remove. It's not about what's good, but rather what's better than the current selections.
Exactly. I think that grave decks aren't the biggest problem of this deck.
As I said some posts before, grave isnt the problem, the biggest problems was agaist decks that uses crucible of worlds and loam.
I played at least 6 games against aggro loam, and i lost all games.
When I sideboarded against them I putted in S.Fields against seismic assault, crypts against their grave, but it didnt stopped them.
Their have more draws, more kill conditions,
My principal meta right now is try to find something that can help me, at least get a chance of winning.
As I said some posts before, grave isnt the problem, the biggest problems was agaist decks that uses crucible of worlds and loam.
I played at least 6 games against aggro loam, and i lost all games.
When I sideboarded against them I putted in S.Fields against seismic assault, crypts against their grave, but it didnt stopped them.
Their have more draws, more kill conditions,
My principal meta right now is try to find something that can help me, at least get a chance of winning.
Decks that abuse loam seem to be the biggest problem for me as well. Unless I land a CotV on 2 early they outdraw and out permanent us quickly...
Which is why I am trying to get Leyline on board as it works against 43 lands, aggroloam, and reanimator.
Graveyard decks are not a problem, and graveyard decks do nothing in a meta full of blue decks (bant, merfolks, canadian...). The main problem I have playing this deck are bant decks, with so many resources, so many big creatures and NOBLE HIERARCH, first turn hierarch ruins all our chances to do nothing against this deck.
In the last tournament of 92 people I played (the report is in page 104) I do 5-0-2, only losed against bant decks.
This is just why I think too in a black splash, but to put 4 perish in sideboard.
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