[Deck] Quinn The Eskimo- Aka, The Mighty Quinn

[kinda]

So I'm new to this, but exactly WHY does this deck run itself in white? I mean, every color has its kill conditions, and every basic land comes in a snow form.

At one point in the thread IBA said he thought a U version might work...but it would be a different thread...Quinn is based aroudn the enlightened tutor toolbox.

[(nameless one)]

I find that whenever I splash something with it to make more agressive, the deck just falters. Not enough defense and not enough win condition. I have also tried splashing blue and black for more control but it just doesn't synergize with the main control pieces anyways. Maybe I have been playing it wrong but I find the mono-white version fine. Also, splashing comes with duals to make it effective and less snow permanents doesn't really work out

On the other hand, when it comes to stalling, has anyone tested Sun Droplet or Convalescent Care? Possibly Pulse of the Fields on main?

Also, the two mentioned are Tutorable while Pulse isnt.

Anyone?

[Pastorofmuppets]

At one point in the thread IBA said he thought a U version might work...but it would be a different thread...Quinn is based aroudn the enlightened tutor toolbox.

oh, I see. I had tried doing UQuin once, granted it was for the superbudget tournament. Didn't work out too well. I was actually thinking black, since it has the sweepers and the removal and the disruption and the Jell-O Pudding Pops.
EDIT: here's a half-assed sample list.

Lands 24
4 Scrying Sheets
17 Swamp
3 Dark Depths

Creatures 12
4 Vampire Hexmage
4 Lodestone Golem
3 Tombstalker
1 Razormane Masticore/Bloodghast

Sorcery 12
4 Sinkhole
4 Thoughtseize
2 Damnation
1 Raven's Crime
1 Syphon Life

Cool Guy Lock Combo: 7-8 slots
Contamination/Bitterblossom
Anvil/Chains
Rituals+Nether Void
et cetera
Or just Hymn and some other form of disruption.

Artifacts 4
4 Top

[Schulz]

@Pastorofmuppets

I think you're on the wrong thread dude

[Pastorofmuppets]

and why is this, Mr. Schulz? I had kind of mentioned half-assing a black deck with a Quinn Engine, maybe if I ever bother to test it out I'll post results.

[Schulz]

and why is this, Mr. Schulz? I had kind of mentioned half-assing a black deck with a Quinn Engine, maybe if I ever bother to test it out I'll post results.

Then start a new thread in developmental because that is an completely different deck. quinn is a mono white control.

[(nameless one)]

Then start a new thread in developmental because that is an completely different deck. quinn is a mono white control.

Not just any mono-white control, its a mono-white tutor toolbox control.'

Did anyone see Gideon Jura? Would he work for Quinn or would he like Elspeth?

[the Thin White Duke]

Gideon would be a perfect fit in a more traditional Wombat type build. If you're running the Painter's Servant/Grindstone combo he's a superfluous; sideboard material at best.
I'm not running the combo win-con (too rich for my blood these days) but Gideon plays well with wrath effects, Humility. I'm excited about this guy, and excited about the plains walker win cons white has!

[clavio]

What is your opinion on running DOJ in the Sacred Mesa slot? It gives the deck much more presence under Standstill.

[(nameless one)]

Honestly, I have been piloting the deck without the Painter Stone combo win. I am currently running these as my win con:

2x Decree of J, 1x Marshal Coup, 1x Genju of the Fields, 1x Sacred Mesa, 2x E. Dragons.

Sometimes, I proxy 2x Painter's Servant and 2x Grindstone for 2x Decree, 1x Coup, 1x Genju and honestly, I actually miss them. Decree is so versitile and Coup acts as another Wrath effect late game with legs. Genju is the best defense along with an active Humility.

I am still working on getting my combo pieces but the way I play the deck, I find that my replacement win cons were actually more helpful in the deck.

And DoJ has actually help me steal games from Merfolks where-as if I had the Painter or Grindstone only, it would have been a lost game.

[the Thin White Duke]

Honestly, I have been piloting the deck without the Painter Stone combo win. I am currently running these as my win con:

2x Decree of J, 1x Marshal Coup, 1x Genju of the Fields, 1x Sacred Mesa, 2x E. Dragons.

Sometimes, I proxy 2x Painter's Servant and 2x Grindstone for 2x Decree, 1x Coup, 1x Genju and honestly, I actually miss them. Decree is so versitile and Coup acts as another Wrath effect late game with legs. Genju is the best defense along with an active Humility.

My deck is similar to yours, and I think Gideon would be a great fit. I have a couple Elspeth in my deck, but I may have to cut one (both?crazy?) to make room for Gideon. And then there's the matter of Ajani having around to put +1/+1 counters on Gideon. Maybe that's a bit too much/inefficient.

[kinda]

Gideon would be a perfect fit in a more traditional Wombat type build. If you're running the Painter's Servant/Grindstone combo he's a superfluous; sideboard material at best.
I'm not running the combo win-con (too rich for my blood these days) but Gideon plays well with wrath effects, Humility. I'm excited about this guy, and excited about the plains walker win cons white has!

Grindstone's are $22 a pop on starcitygames.com and you can preorder gideon at $30...hm...

[the Thin White Duke]

Grindstone's are $22 a pop on starcitygames.com and you can preorder gideon at $30...hm...

Oh man, thanks for urinating on my parade!
I'm just saying, if I happen to pull Gideon from a pack of ROE, great. I'll wait 'till he rotates out of standard to buy.
(plus you have to buy the servants to go with grindstone )

[(nameless one)]

Doesnt really help the thread but just to let yall know, this deck is awesome.

I just played the most mind-numbing game i have ever played ( I was in MWS for more than 2 fuckin hours)

I played against a Neo-Lands deck (43 w/ Valakut)

Game One... He got Loam going, then Valakut.... I kept stalling the best as I can but it wasnt enough. He got me to one. Then At the end of his turn, I toped, find Runed Halo. Next turn, I play Runed Halo on Valakut while I'm at 1.. he goes GG!

Game Two... I mull at five because MWS does not like me. I kept 3 Plains, a Pithing Needle and a Painter's Servant. Then the bad-luck didn't stop there. I kept getting Plains. I then found a Top but I kept topping on irrelevant stuff (mostly creature removal... I didnt sideboard because I dont sideboard when I playtest)... He got his Valakut going. He seemed to forget about the Servant. I never attacked with him, just there sitting, keeping a low profile. I tried stalling the best as I can but it seems that I cant Top into Story Circle or Runed Halo to protect me from Valakut. He got me to two when I topped into a Tutor. At end of his turn, I tutored for Grindstone and win the next turn. It was awesome!

The game took so long that I started playing 5 minutes before WV vs. Duke tipoff and was still playing after Duke won the game. I totally missed the whole thing but its worth it.

It was an epic game and I am still excited about it.... I have never felt this good about control before!

[the Thin White Duke]

It was an epic game and I am still excited about it.... I have never felt this good about control before!

Not just control, but Mono White control!
When I first started playing Wombat back in the day, there was nothing more satisfying than bringing games to a grinding halt; not with counter magic and other blue tricks, but with plain white hyjinks. Maybe I'm just an asshole that way, but I can still see the crestfallen looks on people's faces when they'd get paired with me...
A healthy dose of Bandages would be forthcoming...
I love going to time, still on the first game. Not so great for rankings, but just diabolically fun.

[stalkerzero]

Incredibly interested in building this. I've proxied it up and will be play testing all week before any decisions are made but the one question I have is, of course, the one all budget players have:

How integral is Moat to the deck? I understand how important it can be when you fail to resolve (or lose) a scepter lock and how badly it hoses a lot of decks when it hits the table but...

Can't even find one for sale let alone wanting to fork out $200 for a card that plays in very few decks when I'm attempting to re-start a collection.

[kinda]

Incredibly interested in building this. I've proxied it up and will be play testing all week before any decisions are made but the one question I have is, of course, the one all budget players have:

How integral is Moat to the deck? I understand how important it can be when you fail to resolve (or lose) a scepter lock and how badly it hoses a lot of decks when it hits the table but...

Can't even find one for sale let alone wanting to fork out $200 for a card that plays in very few decks when I'm attempting to re-start a collection.

I'm using an ensnaring bridge. Humility is what you want to go for anyway, the exceptions being merfolk and 43 land.

[Schulz]

I'm using an ensnaring bridge. Humility is what you want to go for anyway, the exceptions being merfolk and 43 land.

But ensnaring bridge seems bad with humility. I rarely ever have a zero card hand. i think if he doesn't have the moat he should just stick with humility and not worry about the moat effect.


@stalkerzero

What is the current list you are running?

[kinda]

But ensnaring bridge seems bad with humility. I rarely ever have a zero card hand. i think if he doesn't have the moat he should just stick with humility and not worry about the moat effect.


@stalkerzero

What is the current list you are running?

Having both humility and ensnaring bridge out early is very rare...they're both 1 of's. Also against decks where bridge is good I generally have no trouble playing out my hand. I wouldn't run bridge over moat, but it is a decent option.

[Combo Winter]

Is the new wall of blossoms playable as it fits right into the main theme of the deck. He seems quite good versus pretty much every matchup even vs combo it cycles for your answers.