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    Re: New cards from M11

    I like how Sword of Vengeance is strong both offensively and defensively. If it gave the creature lifelink, I'd say it was OP.

    Unfortunately, a 3 mana cost to equip really sucks.

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    Re: New cards from M11

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    Might Spring Tide play this?
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    Can Wild Evocation be better than Sneak Attack? The random reveal is rough, as is the extra 2 mana and your opponents ability to counter what you play with it. However, if it resolves they probably didn't have the counter to begin with, and the cast is important for things like Emrakul. It's also able to drop non-creature spells. It's a card to watch. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything strong enough to make it worth building a deck around this, however, it might be a sleeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeyMikey View Post
    Can Wild Evocation be better than Sneak Attack? The random reveal is rough, as is the extra 2 mana and your opponents ability to counter what you play with it. However, if it resolves they probably didn't have the counter to begin with, and the cast is important for things like Emrakul. It's also able to drop non-creature spells. It's a card to watch. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything strong enough to make it worth building a deck around this, however, it might be a sleeper.
    Wild Evocation "suffers" from the same problem like Cursed Scroll - random isn't random anymore with only one card in your hand. Playing Emrakul for free is sexy, but you first have to reach the state AND Wild Evocation must survive the opponent's turn AND it still costs .

    for something that doesn't do anything immediately and gives your opponent the same advantage doesn't sound that nice.

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    Sword of Vengeance. Nice combat abilities, but still not better than the current Swords.
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    I don't think anyone's commented on Twincast yet. Could it be they are reprinting Fork? If so, would it really matter? I'd suspect Fork's value to drop at that point, much like Twincast did. Unless they print Fork at Mythic, which would be stupid.
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    As for essence scatter's removal - I agree counterspell won't be reprinted. I think having counterspell AND deprive in standard would just be begging for control to dominate. More likely they reprint deprive again or maybe stick with mana leak?
    On June fifth I posted the above. Sweet, I predicted the Fork reprint correctly. And mana leak. Man, am I good! And you all doubted me!

    On Channelfireball, LSV predicts that the Jace they reprint for M11 will be the big one...does anyone else think that would make sense? Gotta get his value down so that people like me can play with it! I already spent all my money on FoW's, Goyfs, duals, fetches, etc. Can't afford to buy 80$ new cards too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigfig8 View Post
    On June fifth I posted the above. Sweet, I predicted the Fork reprint correctly. And mana leak. Man, am I good! And you all doubted me!

    On Channelfireball, LSV predicts that the Jace they reprint for M11 will be the big one...does anyone else think that would make sense? Gotta get his value down so that people like me can play with it! I already spent all my money on FoW's, Goyfs, duals, fetches, etc. Can't afford to buy 80$ new cards too.

    Why in the world would they reprint the good Jace? I mean, they could but I fail to see the reason...

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    Why in the world would they reprint the good Jace? I mean, they could but I fail to see the reason...
    Because it's like $80. Jace costing $80 isn't good for anyone, if they do reprint him then he's the chace mythic for the set. Wizard's sells more product, more copies of Jace are in cirulation so the price goes down, everyone's happy. I mean some people would be upset because they're holding onto Jace to make a huge profit, unfortunately, Jace isn't worth shit until they actually sell it, so it's a dumb reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewalker View Post
    Because it's like $80. Jace costing $80 isn't good for anyone, if they do reprint him then he's the chace mythic for the set. Wizard's sells more product, more copies of Jace are in cirulation so the price goes down, everyone's happy. I mean some people would be upset because they're holding onto Jace to make a huge profit, unfortunately, Jace isn't worth shit until they actually sell it, so it's a dumb reason.
    First off, when has wizards ever cared about the secondary market?

    Second, Wouldn't that essentially phase out the old jace? Seems like bad design to already phase out a planeswalker when they are still a relatively new concept.

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    Players would be happy to see both form of Jace reprinted with 2.0 as a mythic. Not sure how much Wizards care about secondary market but I think they should think about problems for people to get 4 Jaces 2.0. They should reprint both Jaces or print some cheap epic hoser for planeswalkers in a way Null Rod exist for artifacts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    First off, when has wizards ever cared about the secondary market?

    Second, Wouldn't that essentially phase out the old jace? Seems like bad design to already phase out a planeswalker when they are still a relatively new concept.
    Printing new Jace, the first time phased out old Jace! He's only good for blocking new Jace now. And wizard's cares about the secondary market when it involves their two babies Standard and new Extended. People will leave standard for the same reason they leave Legacy. Jace is too good not to play, and he's way to good to just pick up and buy. You can't draft for him, since Worldwake was only drafted for like 3 weeks. It's bad enough you have to get new cards when set's rotate, it's another when THE BEST card costs $80. I mean it's bad enough Vengevine is $40-50. Reprinting big Jace will keep people in standard longer, which means more money for wizards.

    EDIT: Ontopic, I've gotten real bored of drafting ROE ROE ROE.

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    I for one am amped to start drafting M11, way more depth than M10 had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
    Jace's Erasure 1U
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    Might Spring Tide play this?
    No, Spring Tide is not a milling deck, it doesn't benefit from slowly milling the opponent. However, I see that you can use that enchantment to mill yourself, which time and time again has been proved to be a stronger tactic.

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    I'm trying to wrap my head around this one... Seems like a very powerful ability (especially combined with the ability to be played for free sometimes). But I can't really think of any existing decks that would want to use it. Anyone have any ideas?
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    Aether Vial does what that thing does, and better to if i might ad.
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    Leyline of Anticipation + Life from the Loam = EOT Ancestral?
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    Re: New cards from M11

    Quote Originally Posted by sigfig8 View Post

    On Channelfireball, LSV predicts that the Jace they reprint for M11 will be the big one...does anyone else think that would make sense? Gotta get his value down so that people like me can play with it! I already spent all my money on FoW's, Goyfs, duals, fetches, etc. Can't afford to buy 80$ new cards too.


    I think reprinting Jace 2.0 would be reasonable. Given all the Jace cards it seems safe to assume that Jace and not Tezzeret will be the U Planeswalker. However we already got 4 Jaces 1.0 (Lorwyn, M10, Duel Decks, and that Book Promo) as well as the new Japanese one coming up, so we are not really in desperate need of another print.
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    Re: New cards from M11

    Quote Originally Posted by Shawon View Post
    Leyline of Anticipation + Life from the Loam = EOT Ancestral?
    The question here is, why do you need to endstep the loam? To make it better, you need to get more value out of it. But in loam decks, you very rarely have instants that you would otherwise hold mana open for, meaning you get very little added value out of loam being an instant. The leyline is good in decks where they play both instants and sorcery speed spells that aren't creatures (Vial is better) and often have the dilemma of casting a spell or leaving mana open. I don't think this deck really exists.

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    Leyline of Anticipation doesn't fit in any current deck that I know of, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. And Aether Vial is better at its particular job, yeah, but it only does creatures, so I don't think that means this card is outclassed automatically.
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