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    I'll predict that new Jace will be printed. Jace's Erasure would be unplayable bad with the old Jace, and the Planeswalker named cards seem to be designed to actually be good with their respective Planeswalkers.
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    If Jace TM isn't reprinted then WoTC would be acting hypocritical. They say Legacy is too expensive it would be ironic if the cost of Standard is really high...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    I'll predict that new Jace will be printed. Jace's Erasure would be unplayable bad with the old Jace, and the Planeswalker named cards seem to be designed to actually be good with their respective Planeswalkers.
    I agree here. Jace 2.0 in M11 makes perfect sense. Little Jace pales in comparison already, and he just seems anti-climactic in the set. Let's face it, giving your opponents card advantage with the hopes of eventually getting some yourself is just weak. But we'll find out soon enough.

    I do think Wizards cares about the secondary market (or at least they pretend to). Why else have the stupid reserved list? If the secondary market was irrelevant, then Wizards woudl have reprinted duals a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    First off, when has wizards ever cared about the secondary market?

    Second, Wouldn't that essentially phase out the old jace? Seems like bad design to already phase out a planeswalker when they are still a relatively new concept.
    I hear people say this, but I've never figured out where such a silly idea came from. Perhaps because Wizards doesn't engage in secondary market sales directly? Whatever the rationale behind that phrase, it is patently false. I thought that this argument had been buried long ago. Say around the time that the Invitational dumped Vintage because the pros were havng a hard time acquiring the necessary cards. But even if that didn't kill this pernicious rumor, the recent explanation of New Extended as a means of supplanting Legacy because of the latter's restricted card supply and high entry barrier should have. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Wizards pays more attention to secondary markets than anyone on these forums. Secondary markets are a direct driving force for the primary market, ergo it is very important to Wizards financial health to monitor them.
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    Jace2 is in Worldwake, which is Standard legal for over another year. I don't think they will print him in a core set when he is still in print in Worldwake. Baneslayer in M11 makes sense because she is not legal after the rotation of M10, and once M11 hits the streets, M10 is no longer in print.
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    It would hardly be the first time that a card from the preceding block had been reprinted in a core set, although it might be the first time it was a chase rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    It would hardly be the first time that a card from the preceding block had been reprinted in a core set, although it might be the first time it was a chase rare.
    But core sets used to be every two years, now they are annual. So printing Jace2 in M11 has zero impact on legality in Standard. I can see, however, them maybe printing him in M12 to continue to make him Standard legal for one more year.
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    It will keep booster sales high if they can market this set as having Jace and BSA as Mythics, both of these cards still have high demand, and printing more would make them more accessible (through packs / increased supply -> lower prices).

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    The problem with printing Jace 2.0 is that the price insanity is fairly recent, at least when compared to the M10 development cycle. If Jace had been in Zendikar, I could see it, but unless they want to straight up phase out Jace 1.0 I don't see this happening.

    Also, the Jace's Erasure argument is silly, because Wizards will always print terrible mill cards (not saying that they don't print 'good' cards for mill, but throughout its history, Magic has been graced with countless awful, awful mill cards).

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    It looks like someone has pulled from a booster this monster:

    ***** Leviathan 5UUU
    8/8
    Islandwalk
    All lands are Islands in addition to their original type.
    Creatures without flying or islandwalk can't attack.
    Rare

    That card is freaking ridiculous. Blue Form of the Dragon?

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    Holy shit. That thing is ridic. Might we see the SnT/Eureka decks playing this? Its still vulnerable to removal but it does shut down aggro for a few turns..
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    Re: New cards from M11

    Quote Originally Posted by DrJones View Post
    It looks like someone has pulled from a booster this monster:

    ***** Leviathan 5UUU
    8/8
    Islandwalk
    All lands are Islands in addition to their original type.
    Creatures without flying or islandwalk can't attack.
    Rare

    That card is freaking ridiculous. Blue Form of the Dragon?
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    Re: New cards from M11

    Quote Originally Posted by Volrath View Post
    Where did you get that?, it's not even on salvation's spoilers yet.
    Someone with like 40 posts claims that a friend at his local shop has the card in hand.

    ...so yeah. That's about as concrete as it gets.
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    The Leviathan is a really interesting update on the old Island Sanctuary clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morbid- View Post
    Someone with like 40 posts claims that a friend at his local shop has the card in hand.

    ...so yeah. That's about as concrete as it gets.
    I've seen the same card. The art is of a giant fish wreaking havoc off of a coastal settlement.

    There was a promotion at some convention someplace where Wizards gave out tons of M11 boosters. A guy at our shop opened one and this was the rare. I need one for Vorosh....

    EDIT: Card is worse than Blazing Archon. I mean, yeah, it makes your Inkwell Leviathan unblockable versus Zoo, but it's also REB and Pyroblast-able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggro_zombies View Post
    I've seen the same card. The art is of a giant fish wreaking havoc off of a coastal settlement.

    There was a promotion at some convention someplace where Wizards gave out tons of M11 boosters. A guy at our shop opened one and this was the rare. I need one for Vorosh....

    EDIT: Card is worse than Blazing Archon. I mean, yeah, it makes your Inkwell Leviathan unblockable versus Zoo, but it's also REB and Pyroblast-able.
    I actually just got on MTGS in time for then to post a picture (just the art, no card text). Now I'm waiting for the actual thing to be spoiled. Cool though.
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    Moat on an 8/8 unblockable is nice. No Shroud means it eats Swords all day long, though. Not really sure what matchups Reanimator would bring this guy in for.

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    Moat on an 8/8 unblockable is nice. No Shroud means it eats Swords all day long, though. Not really sure what matchups Reanimator would bring this guy in for.
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    Regretfully it does nothing that Blazing Archon doesn't already do better, except maybe be a marginally faster clock. Awesome flavor though.

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    Around 2015 or so there should be enough stuff for a playable Quest for Ula's Temple deck.
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