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    Question: In a combo heavy meta, does Sadistic Sacrament earn a spot in the side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgalis View Post
    Question: In a combo heavy meta, does Sadistic Sacrament earn a spot in the side?
    What kind of.combo? That card really only shined in the B/U ANT matchup because the two tendrils were the only win con. If you can't remove ALL of their win conditions the cards basically useless.

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    Yes, after testing it today in a 32-man tourney, I didn't use it a single time. I finished 5th, losing to merfolk and drawing with solidarity...
    Any tips on how to beat the fish? It seems like the worst matchup in my meta...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgalis View Post
    Any tips on how to beat the fish? It seems like the worst matchup in my meta...
    1. Play more lands.
    2. Don't get Wastelanded.
    3. Cast more Duresses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgalis View Post
    Yes, after testing it today in a 32-man tourney, I didn't use it a single time. I finished 5th, losing to merfolk and drawing with solidarity...
    Any tips on how to beat the fish? It seems like the worst matchup in my meta...
    Merfolk is like 15% of my meta so I've devoted sb 4 slots to the matchup: 3 Xantid Swarm, 1 Tropical Island

    Pyroblast is also decent but I see that as more of an anti-CB card than a protection spell since it sucks hardcore when you want to play things with LED mana

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    As far as I can tell, the easiest way to beat merfolk is to cast a protected ETW as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandias View Post
    ..the easiest way to beat merfolk is to resolve a Xantid Swarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikoo View Post
    Merfolk is like 15% of my meta so I've devoted sb 4 slots to the matchup: 3 Xantid Swarm, 1 Tropical Island

    Pyroblast is also decent but I see that as more of an anti-CB card than a protection spell since it sucks hardcore when you want to play things with LED mana
    I think this is a poor choice. a land is a dead sideboard slot in a board that wants to be larger. Also, tropical island is dead after you've cast xantid swarm. It might as well be a basic island.

    I understand that xantid is good against them but it might be the wrong card for this deck at this time. Maybe not if you played more five color lands.

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    The sideboard is definitley way too tight to be sideboarding a land...you'd be much better off playing more cities if you really wanna play xantid swarm.

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    Xantid is no more difficult to cast than Chant. You may possibly have 1-2 more white spells than green spells to imprint on a Mox, but the difference there is marginal. As far as the mana base is concerned I don't see any reason not to play Xantid that doesn't also apply to Chant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lebron jim View Post
    The sideboard is definitley way too tight to be sideboarding a land...you'd be much better off playing more cities if you really wanna play xantid swarm.
    You can just play the Xantids without the extra Trop/City of Brass in the board, but there are many matchups where I want +1 land anyway (Merfolk definitely being one of them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunshine View Post
    Xantid is no more difficult to cast than Chant. You may possibly have 1-2 more white spells than green spells to imprint on a Mox, but the difference there is marginal. As far as the mana base is concerned I don't see any reason not to play Xantid that doesn't also apply to Chant.
    Chant is more important than swarm. Having both in the deck will only dilute the color ratio and require more five color lands. If an opponent wastelands you, you'll be unable to cast either. You can't tutor for a green source that isn't a tropical. I've already explained why tropical is bad.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    So I'm new to this whole TES deck. I have seen it played but never really played it myself. My main question is, what is better to go for, a tendrils win, or an early EtW for 10 goblins or more? I mean I'm assuming it all matters on the situation, but whats the latest you want to go turn wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketrae21 View Post
    So I'm new to this whole TES deck. I have seen it played but never really played it myself. My main question is, what is better to go for, a tendrils win, or an early EtW for 10 goblins or more? I mean I'm assuming it all matters on the situation, but whats the latest you want to go turn wise.
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    There is no answer for this. It depends. What is your opponent playing? Can they answer or race EtW? Is EtW in your hand or do you have to BW into it and crack LEDs? You don't have to go all-in everytime u cast EtW (unless ur busting LEDs), 6-8 tokens go a long way in dealing damage and stalling while u easily rebuild.

    Turn wise it also depends. What deck are they playing? Against anything blue turns 2-4 EtW is pretty good, against Merfolk it depends on their cards in hand, counters on Vial, creatures in play, etc. But it still depends, does the opponent have EE? Just play the deck and u learn to adapt. The only guide for playing combo is using common sense and anticipating what your opponent is going to do, which is very easy, just assume they have the worst shit u can see and go from there.
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    So, playing with Bryant's list, I've been having trouble with the Lands.dec matchup. I'm not exactly sure how to sideboard either. Game 1 is easy, but post board they have chalice of the void, as well as maindeck EE, tabernacle, wasteland, etc. I just find I get locked out too easily.

    I plan on testing the following SBing against them (though I'm not sure if it is optimal.)

    -1 Infernal Tutor, -1 Silence, -1, Orim's Chant, -1 Empty the Warrens, +1 Echoing Truth, +2 Pyroblast, +1 Wipe Away

    Any insights on this matchup/sideboarding? Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurSerratedDust View Post
    So, playing with Bryant's list, I've been having trouble with the Lands.dec matchup. I'm not exactly sure how to sideboard either. Game 1 is easy, but post board they have chalice of the void, as well as maindeck EE, tabernacle, wasteland, etc. I just find I get locked out too easily.

    I plan on testing the following SBing against them (though I'm not sure if it is optimal.)

    -1 Infernal Tutor, -1 Silence, -1, Orim's Chant, -1 Empty the Warrens, +1 Echoing Truth, +2 Pyroblast, +1 Wipe Away

    Any insights on this matchup/sideboarding? Thanks for your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ComboMan View Post
    Oh my...
    What? Since when is Chalice of the Void, Wasteland recursion, Ports, EE, Extirpate, and even Zuran Orb easy to win against?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurSerratedDust View Post
    What? Since when is Chalice of the Void, Wasteland recursion, Ports, EE, Extirpate, and even Zuran Orb easy to win against?
    Why pyroblasts?
    Why board out infernal tutor , since u need to be "explosive"???

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by ComboMan View Post
    Why pyroblasts?
    Why board out infernal tutor , since u need to be "explosive"???

    -4 orim's / + 2 echoing, +1 wipe away, +1 krosan
    I was thinking maybe to get Intuition, to buy you some time? I dunno, I wasn't sure how valuable they'd be.

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