[Deck] Elves Combo

[k2thej]

Glad you like the deck. I think Nullmage looks to slow. I would go with either Viridian shaman or Zealot depending on your meta. Also I don't think it makes sense to run less than 4 Krosan grips, but run a Viridian instead in the sideboard. It might make sense to do that if you use living wish main deck. Have you considered running a Viridian Zealot main deck? I found that to be really good.

Ya the wishboard is working out really well for me. I wouldn't call the board cited as mine my board anymore. I am a wish convert. I prefer leyline over grip since it gives us a phenomenal matchup against control.

[kyller83]

Ya the wishboard is working out really well for me. I wouldn't call the board cited as mine my board anymore. I am a wish convert. I prefer leyline over grip since it gives us a phenomenal matchup against control.

what is your board looking like these days? we run nearly identical lists and i have a "library of alexandria" legacy tourney on saturday.

my board is currently

4 thorn of amethyst
4 leyline of lifeforce
1 gaea's cradle
1 terastadon
1 emrakul
1 masticore
1 ezuri
1 viridian shaman
1 eternal witness

i think everything is really solid except for one maybe two slots(eternal witness). am i right in that terastadon and shaman can't get rid of humility?

[1maarten1]

what is your board looking like these days? we run nearly identical lists and i have a "library of alexandria" legacy tourney on saturday.

my board is currently

4 thorn of amethyst
4 leyline of lifeforce
1 gaea's cradle
1 terastadon
1 emrakul
1 masticore
1 ezuri
1 viridian shaman
1 eternal witness

i think everything is really solid except for one maybe two slots(eternal witness). am i right in that terastadon and shaman can't get rid of humility?

Go run Ulamog if you want to hate humility :)!

[Waikiki]

How on earth do you plan on killing humility with a creature ?

[Koby]

You plan on killing humility with a creature by attacking with many 1/1s

Fixed that for you. =D

[kyller83]

ulamog would work cause its ability happens when you play it not when it comes into play, but getting to 11 mana with a humility out is going to be very difficult.

the problem with just attacking with a bunch of 1/1's is you have no way to generate absurd amounts of mana other than cradle which i personally only run one of as a wish target.

so far i see the best route is to go off before they stick a humility which is very doable. even if you half combo and stick like 8-9 creatures then the humility will really only slow you down a turn.

[Mr. Safety]

what is your board looking like these days? we run nearly identical lists and i have a "library of alexandria" legacy tourney on saturday.

my board is currently

4 thorn of amethyst
4 leyline of lifeforce
1 gaea's cradle
1 terastadon
1 emrakul
1 masticore
1 ezuri
1 viridian shaman
1 eternal witness

i think everything is really solid except for one maybe two slots(eternal witness). am i right in that terastadon and shaman can't get rid of humility?

Just to clarify, Humility is a static effect, it doesn't prevent entering-the-battlefield triggers. Viridian Shaman (sadly) only deals with artifacts. Your best bet is probably Krosan Grip/Gleeful Sabotage to deal with Humility.

[arebennian]

Just to clarify, Humility is a static effect, it doesn't prevent entering-the-battlefield triggers.

Wow.
I'd like to see you pull that in a big match.

[Hawdes]

Just to clarify, Humility is a static effect, it doesn't prevent entering-the-battlefield triggers. Viridian Shaman (sadly) only deals with artifacts. Your best bet is probably Krosan Grip/Gleeful Sabotage to deal with Humility.

I lol'd!

[kyller83]

i'm dumb i was thinking viridian zealot which has an activated ability. which becomes a 1/1 nothing before i can sac it.

[Hawdes]

Enters the battlefield abilities do not resolve with an active humility in play. Why they won't resolve are taken care of in layer ruling.
Look it up.
It's a complicated procedure of priorities in different layers, which are controlled by time stamps.

[arebennian]

Yeah, I know most of you don't consider it the same deck, but I'll post it here anyway.

Matt Nass has written about the deck he took to the Top 16 of San Jose SCG.

http://www.channelfireball.com/artic...gacy-gu-elves/

[k2thej]

I really wouldn't be concerned at all with humility. If you don't combo by turn four, that's your fault. Adding stuff to answer humility will just dilute the potency of the combo and ultimately make the deck worse. This deck's best answer to most threats to race those threats, and humility is one of them.

[kyller83]

yeah after getting to do a little testing against enchantress i've realized its not really a big deal. at worst i'll wish for terastadon while comboing.

the only changes i've made to my board is putting in a viridian corrupter for the viridian shaman.

k2thej: i was wondering if you still ran eternal witness. it seems that i very rarely wish for her and when i do i usually wish she was an elf. i'm not sure what i'd add. faerie macabre, a 2nd regal force, a viridian zealot, one of the elf lords? i dunno all seem to have merits.

[k2thej]

yeah after getting to do a little testing against enchantress i've realized its not really a big deal. at worst i'll wish for terastadon while comboing.

the only changes i've made to my board is putting in a viridian corrupter for the viridian shaman.

k2thej: i was wondering if you still ran eternal witness. it seems that i very rarely wish for her and when i do i usually wish she was an elf. i'm not sure what i'd add. faerie macabre, a 2nd regal force, a viridian zealot, one of the elf lords? i dunno all seem to have merits.

No she didn't make the cut. I never went for her ever. Here is my current board, with one spot still open (which is listed as wasteland right now). I am testing a few different things, but am currently testing wasteland:

1 Wasteland
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Gaea's Cradle
4 Leyline of Lifeforce
1 Regal Force
1 Terastodon
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Viridian Shaman

[PhantomOtter]

So k2thej

What is your current list with sideboard and any current matches and results???

[Just me]

I've been toying with this deck for about 2 weeks now and I have had great succes with Genesis Wave but do not see this card mentioned on the boards here, any reason? I mean, 15+ mana means a decent shot at even Emrakul but it get's soooo much land and elves and symbiotes in play that it's just sick. Add Concordant Crossroads or Staff of Domination for a direct win (but maybe that's making it to cute?).

[Shabbaman]

Genesis Wave is mentioned in 22 posts in this thread.

[k2thej]

Genesis Wave is mentioned in 22 posts in this thread.

Shabbaman<3

Phantom- here is my current list:


4 Birchlore Rangers
3 Elvish Archdruid
4 Elvish Visionary
3 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Heritage Druid
1 Joraga Warcaller
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Nettle Sentinel
4 Quirion Ranger
1 Regal Force
4 Wirewood Symbiote

4 Glimpse of Nature
3 Living Wish
4 Summoner's Pact

6 Forest
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs

SB:

1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
1 Ezuri, Renegade Leader
1 Gaea's Cradle
4 Leyline of Lifeforce
1 Regal Force
1 Terastodon
4 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Viridian Shaman
1 Wasteland



It's testing really well. As I said in my last post, Wasteland is just being tested, but I thought it was an interesting use of wish and one I had never seen before. If we need to take out a tabernacle, Karakas for Emrakul, glacial chasm, or other more widely played things that I am forgetting it might help. Again, still in testing though.

The other cards I am considering for the wasteland slot are Multani's Acolyte and maybe Skullmulcher

[Just me]

Genesis Wave is mentioned in 22 posts in this thread.

Let me rephrase that;

@ K2thje and other experienced Elves-combo players;
Why are you not running Genesis Wave? Personally I have trouble seeing the value of Summoner's Pact. Fetching Nettle Sentinel and/or hertiage Druid and occasionally Regal Force is all it does and this leads to a difficult and slow going combo if you had Glimpse. Setting up a 'small' Wave for about X= 7 seems about as good and provides Glimpse 5-6-7(-8) in a way, as in , a card to start to combo with and end the turn with overwhelming boardadvantage. Downside remains you will need 1 more turn to win, that's why I do run 2x Living Wish and 1x Emrakul but still. It feels powerful but the last couple of posted decks doesn't run this.

Can someone better with this deck (like, all of you) explain why Genesis Wave is not being run in the current decks?