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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

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    I wish they would print something similar to SDT that can be used in Quinn so I can actually name SDT with Pithing Needle/Beetle and not lose to CounterTop decks.
    Then they drop the same card you're talking about.

    I want this card:

    BBB
    Enchantment
    Whenever a creature comes into play, if it wasn't cast, destroy it.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

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    My friend kept complaining on how it costs so much to build a cool deck. He really wanted to build Imperial Painter but cant because he cannot afford Imperial Recruiters.

    I hope they print something like this on "Action" for him:



    That would really bring the cost of Imperial Painter down.
    Red needs more control/combo cards in legacy, especially things that make Goblin Welder (one of my favorite cards ever) more powerful.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    But where would that be good? Also, it doesn't feel like a black card. Prohibitions on unnatural entry of creatures feels GW.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    Then they drop the same card you're talking about.

    I want this card:

    BBB
    Enchantment
    Whenever a creature comes into play, if it wasn't cast, destroy it.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Exactly, hosing Reanimator isn't really a black thing considering that's one of black's best tricks is to reanimate something.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous Druid View Post
    Red needs more control/combo cards in legacy, especially things that make Goblin Welder (one of my favorite cards ever) more powerful.
    I think symmetry and random discard could be a fun part of red's color pie:

    Firebug
    Creature
    Discard a card at random: Add to your mana pool. Any player may play this ability once per turn.
    1/1

    Confusion
    Sorcery
    Each player may search his or her deck for up to 3 cards and put them into his or her hand. Each player who searched his deck this way shuffles his or her deck, and discards 2 cards at random.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by rufus View Post
    I think symmetry and random discard could be a fun part of red's color pie:

    Firebug
    Creature
    Discard a card at random: Add to your mana pool. Any player may play this ability once per turn.
    1/1

    Confusion
    Sorcery
    Each player may search his or her deck for up to 3 cards and put them into his or her hand. Each player who searched his deck this way shuffles his or her deck, and discards 2 cards at random.
    Just curious in which deck would you play this?

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    3 cards I would love to see (for so many decks)

    Cephalid Spirit Guide -
    Creature - Cephalid Spirit
    Exile Cephalid Spirit Guide from your hand: Add to your mana pool.
    2/2


    Soltari Spirit Guide -
    Creature - Human Spirit
    Exile Soltari Spirit Guide from your hand: Add to your mana pool.
    2/2

    Darkscourger -
    Echo 3 (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.)
    When Darkgscourger comes into play, you may return target nonland permanent an opponent controls to its owner’s hand. If you do, pay 2 life.
    2/1

    ... yea i know ....

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiang View Post
    Just curious in which deck would you play this?
    Aggro Loam or Goblin Welder decks come to mind.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    Exactly, hosing Reanimator isn't really a black thing considering that's one of black's best tricks is to reanimate something.
    It wouldn't just hose Reanimator. Show and Tell, Natural Order, Dread Return, AEther Vial, the list goes on. Killing creatures for free seems very black, especially when the creature entered play for very little effort. The card itself also isn't infallible either. Show and Tell dropping Darksteel Colossus, for example, is just one way around this card.

    This could be cool to have:

    BBB
    Sorcery
    Choose a permanent an opponent controls. That player may pay 2 life. If that player does, repeat this process for another permanent that player controls that has not previously been chosen. If that player does not pay life after you choose a permanent, that player then sacrifices the chosen permanent.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Here is what I would love to be printed for black removal.

    Painful Choice BBB (Sorcery)
    Target Player separates their permanents into two plies. You choice one pile, that player must sacrifice each permanent in the pile. You lose one life for each sacrificed permanent in this manner.

    Some choices are difficult, others are deadly.

    Its basically Pox meets Fact or Fiction.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    BBB
    Sorcery
    Choose a permanent an opponent controls. That player may pay 2 life. If that player does, repeat this process for another permanent that player controls that has not previously been chosen. If that player does not pay life after you choose a permanent, that player then sacrifices the chosen permanent.
    This is like over9000 times worse than Vindicate, and the only advantage it has is that it's monocolor and doesn't target as worded?

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    I'd like to see some new burn:

    New Bolt
    1R
    Instant
    New Bolt deals 4 damage to target creature or player.

    And because so few players play ANT now, and many of those who do rely on a very scarce P3K rare, I'd like to see the following (although a reprint of Grim Tutor would also serve the same purpose):

    Dark Tutor
    1BB
    Sorcery
    Search your deck for a card, and reveal that card to all players. Put that card into your hand. Lose life equal to the converted mana cost of that card.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    BBB
    Sorcery
    Choose a permanent an opponent controls. That player may pay 2 life. If that player does, repeat this process for another permanent that player controls that has not previously been chosen. If that player does not pay life after you choose a permanent, that player then sacrifices the chosen permanent.
    In a format where people frequently don't have that much on the table?

    This seems a little more interesting:

    Consumption
    BBB
    Sorcery
    As many times as you like, you may pay half your life rounded up, and exile a permanent.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    What scarce 3 kingdoms rare are you talking about lordofthepit? I play tendrils and use no portal 3 cards so I was at a loss. Imperial seal is the only one I can think of and that one is sadly banned in Legacy.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Grim Tutor. It's not P3K.


    BBB
    Enchantment
    Whenever a nontoken creature comes into play, if it wasn't cast, destroy it.

    Fixed.

    Forget about monoblack permanent removal, it'll never happen. I've resigned that.

    B
    Instant/Sorcery
    As an additional cost to cast, sacrifice an artifact.
    Add BBB to your mana pool.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    B
    Instant/Sorcery
    As an additional cost to cast, sacrifice an artifact.
    Add BBB to your mana pool.
    "Third Ritual"?

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    Grim Tutor. It's not P3K.


    BBB
    Enchantment
    Whenever a nontoken creature comes into play, if it wasn't cast, destroy it.

    Fixed.

    Forget about monoblack permanent removal, it'll never happen. I've resigned that.

    B
    Instant/Sorcery
    As an additional cost to cast, sacrifice an artifact.
    Add BBB to your mana pool.
    Again, it doesn't feel black. Why not just give Black a really solid removal spell. For BBB you could get something like.

    Sorcery

    Name a creature card. Players sacrifice all cards with that name.

    That kills Emrakul, Progenitus, Marit Lage, swarms of tokens and nearly everything else. It is also balanced.

    Your ritual would make ANT (and other Tendrils decks) far too strong. Dark ritual 5-8 is too strong. Using it on a tapped Mox would be amazing.

    This is for everyone. I know I am even guilty of this as well, but if you are gonna post cards you want printed, please specify what deck you are thinking of them for. It really puts it into context.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    B
    Instant/Sorcery
    As an additional cost to cast, sacrifice an artifact.
    Add BBB to your mana pool.

    If they printed that, I think I'd have to go buy up a few hundred foils of it, then sell them off at the height of things until they figured out what to ban out of storm.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelfire View Post
    Sorcery

    Name a creature card. Players sacrifice all cards with that name.

    That kills Emrakul, Progenitus, Marit Lage, swarms of tokens and nearly everything else. It is also balanced.
    Actually it doesn't kill token swarms, because tokens aren't actual cards that can be named. Same thing why Runed Halo doesn't work against Marit Lage.
    Island, go.

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    Re: Cards Wizards can print or have printed to revitalize dead decks and make them vi

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthVicious View Post
    Grim Tutor. It's not P3K.
    I stand corrected.

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