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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Wow,

    Wasteland is getting out of hand. Unfortunately, I don't know how its price is going to go down. Okay, everyone play single color decks for the next 6 months, together we can decrease the playability of the card.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    My theory is that the reason that these stores raising buy prices of duals/Forces/Wastelands etc. may be because they need to get them into stock to attract Eternal customers to their stores in the first place. I don't know about anyone else, but when I buy singles I buy in bulk - a couple of dual lands and then some odd cards to finish off playsets - a Standstill, a Pernicious Deed or 2 Red Elemental Blasts, for example. If the stores can secure a customer deciding to buy a dual land from their store then they've got them on their site or at their store, and the chances of them deciding to buy more Eternal cards they may need (hell, even Standard cards) becomes higher once you've got them hooked on buying a dual from you. Then you can make the margains on these lesss expensive cards (which you can buy for less) better and make more profit. But the stores have to get the players wanting, no, needing, to come to their stores in the first place because maybe that's the only place they can source the duals they want from.

    For example, if I want an Underground sea and genericmagiccardshop.com doesn't have it but awesomewellstockedmagiccardshop.com does, I will buy it from the latter, and if I need anything else ancilliary I will likely buy it from the latter store to save on shipping costs, unless it's grossly overpriced. The latter store has got my business because it had that chase card in stock, and has profited from me buying a whole heap of other cards at the same time, almost as an afterthought. If the margains are good on those cards, it's pretty tasty for the store. And I believe that the margains for common/uncommon playables for Eternal would be very good (someone correct me if I'm wrong).

    But have the margains changed much in terms of dollar value and percentage from when Force of Will was selling for $50 and now selling for $75? I don't remember what they were buying them for when they were selling for $50, can anyone shed some light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramanujan View Post
    Wow,

    Wasteland is getting out of hand. Unfortunately, I don't know how its price is going to go down. Okay, everyone play single color decks for the next 6 months, together we can decrease the playability of the card.
    That's a possibility. I wonder if Blood Moon and Back to Basics also increased??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    so... people still blaming SCG for price spikes?

    Troll and Toad is currently buying NM Wastelands for $60, and NM Force of Will's for also $60. They are buying every dual for mothan SCG, except for Volcanic.
    Holy cow, $95 buy price for Underground Sea?! Time for me to cash in.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Yeah, I'm never ever getting back into Legacy.
    I'll play with borrowed stuff (and I do, and I do well at tourneys) but I will never be able to buy a deck again.

    *shrug*

    Never thought it'd get this bad.


    Quote Originally Posted by pandaman
    For example, if I want an Underground sea and genericmagiccardshop.com doesn't have it but awesomewellstockedmagiccardshop.com does, I will buy it from the latter, and if I need anything else ancilliary I will likely buy it from the latter store to save on shipping costs, unless it's grossly overpriced. The latter store has got my business because it had that chase card in stock, and has profited from me buying a whole heap of other cards at the same time, almost as an afterthought. If the margains are good on those cards, it's pretty tasty for the store. And I believe that the margains for common/uncommon playables for Eternal would be very good (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
    But what about when the card is absurd at both places and you buy from eBay to save ~5-10 dollars.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    I'm starting to wonder if it's worth it to cash out and call it good. I love this game, but man, everyone is talking about all these price increases. How far can this go? I have a ton of stuff. I have no clue what it would be worth if cashed in, but I am really starting to think it's worth it to go ahead and do it. I'm sure I'd be mortgage free afterwards and that's really, really enticing. This is crazy.

    Sadly, I think I am going to add it up and decide. If it's over 100k, I will. What has become of this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by death View Post
    That's a possibility. I wonder if Blood Moon and Back to Basics also increased??
    Not Blood Moon - it was printed and reprinted four times.

    Heck, I even have a foil one that's worth next to nothing.

    EDIT: Doran, the Siege Tower is at 30 $!

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    I'm starting to wonder if it's worth it to cash out and call it good. I love this game, but man, everyone is talking about all these price increases. How far can this go? I have a ton of stuff. I have no clue what it would be worth if cashed in, but I am really starting to think it's worth it to go ahead and do it. I'm sure I'd be mortgage free afterwards and that's really, really enticing. This is crazy.

    Sadly, I think I am going to add it up and decide. If it's over 100k, I will. What has become of this game?
    You've got way more stuff than me but we were in that thread a while ago before "Price Hike 2.0" started. What is starting to shock me is the actual return you can potentially make by speculating or cashing out duals. I can tell you that my ~$1000 I paid for a dual playset has more than doubled in value in 10 years. That is a 100% increase. I wouldn't put my savings into this cardboard but it is the only hobby I would ever have that I am pretty damn sure I at least hit break even on in $ due to the value increase of many of my cards even when factoring in tournaments, and buying cards like Promo Meddling Mages that aren't worth more than $5 now.

    BTW you illustrated my walk away price explanation in the other thread perfectly. For your sake I hope it is whatever brings you the most happiness.

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    Apologies. Double Post.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    What has become of this game?
    umm, it's now quite old, played internationally - and enjoyed by many many of thousands - collectable and certain items are relatively scarce
    when these scarce items are also heavily demanded - and required in multiple copies - they will have some value
    but put it in perspective - is a few thousand dollars really a lot of money over time?

    mtg players always (and have always) complain about price - there's a certain pleasure in this sort of whining - and frequently want something for nothing
    that's completely unrealistic, gotta pay to play
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    It's just becoming a debate of "do I destroy my favorite hobby?" as compared to having financial freedom. That's a huge question for anyone my age. I'm 39 btw.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    so... people still blaming SCG for price spikes?

    Troll and Toad is currently buying NM Wastelands for $60, and NM Force of Will's for also $60. They are buying every dual for more than SCG, except for Volcanic.
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    but if not - i'm gonna sell a lot of my cards)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shursh View Post
    Probably the best april fool ever
    but if not - i'm gonna sell a lot of my cards)
    Maybe, but most likely not since the list was updated on March 31st, not on april fool's day

    I'm personally waiting for ebay to catch up with some of the prices, and if it does - there goes part of my collection. Good thing (if there is a good thing about this situation) is that lots of cards will be cleared out of closets and basements and will end up in hands of those that want to pay the ridiculous price tags and actually play the game instead of speculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pippin View Post
    Maybe, but most likely not since the list was updated on March 31st, not on april fool's day
    They've update the list at 6pm, best way to set buylist online all night long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shursh View Post
    They've update the list at 6pm, best way to set buylist online all night long.
    hm? The list was actually updated early in the morning on 31st of March, EST time. That would make it afternoon in Europe's time, and even more in Russia.
    In my opinion, this is nowhere near the april fool's day joke since it would make no business sense to them + look at their sell prices (Wasteland for $80). They most likely just wanted to get their stock full really fast.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Maybe they're stocking up for Grand Prix Amsterdam?
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    The list was actually updated early in the morning on 31st of March, EST time.
    This is insane, if it actually happens

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    God these prices are fucking insane. I need 2 more Wastelands to finish off my 3rd set. Do I buy now? Since it is like a mega-hyper format staple it might be reprinted at some point in a box set. Man, I don't know.

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    Stop complaining if you have more than one set. Its people like you who make it so expensive.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelis View Post
    Stop complaining if you have more than one set. Its people like you who make it so expensive.
    On the plus side, its more incentive for people to get rid of excess sets as well. I'm gonna try to unload my extra set of Wastelands for a couple Jaces this weekend. Already unloaded 2 extra SoFaI I had as well for Legacy playables I needed.

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