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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    what about fetchable som duals (with maybe cpt if you control more than 1 land instead) or something based on that variant. they would be playable as the first fetch target, or just a replacement for duals altogether in aggro decks or decks that can work off of ~2 lands.

    anyways, outside of fow and wastes, has anyone notices a rise in other staples like vial? locally the prices of vials and goyf have skyrocketed as it appears like most of the newer people ive seen have adopt rock or tribal decks (maybe due to the unavailability of u duals and cards like fow).

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    Never seen Top this high, for one.

    Makes sense people would fall back on tribal at this point, although even Goblins now isn't cheap at all. Lackeys are on the rise, and Piledrivers aren't easy to come by these days. If you want to keep it "budget", forget about running Ports/Wastes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KindGrind View Post
    Never seen Top this high, for one.
    No doubt. Top has always been one of those cards where I'm thinking something along the lines of "oh yeah top, that's like a $2 uncommon". I guess time flies. I really did I double take when I saw one in the case recently. Same goes for SoFI.
    I'm still thankful that fetches are reasonable. Yay Zendikar!

    Maze of Ith is really expensive now. The last time I looked at that card it was around $12.

    I feel if they don't print another viable double land (which they may be afraid to), Ancient Tomb will see a rise. Seems like the Stompy Archetype has been getting a lot of attention lately with all the MUD flying around.
    I think that red may see another interesting enchantment or creature at 3cmc (R2 specifically) that will help Dragon Stompy. I think that people will still continue to try to make black stompy work. White/Dutch Stax is a deck that I think could find itself in the Established section soon if it reaches its potential.

    Despite a reprint, it seems that Daze is making small gains ($2.99 for NM at SCG). Standstill's cost is surprising me too ($9.99 at SCG for NM).

    Surprised to see Torment Grim Lavamancers at $12. But I think it deserves it.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

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    A dual with only 1 basictype would be stronger than the old ones, since you dont have to fear hatecards like choke
    Very very true. And would make you not vulnerable to Islandwalk if the was the island that taps for green.

    And then WotC could spread 20 of these over two blocks and make a lot of money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octopusman View Post
    I feel if they don't print another viable double land (which they may be afraid to), Ancient Tomb will see a rise.
    Well, it's already around 10$, which is pretty steep... Not too sure this will rise further.

    I picked up a playset of GSZ preetty cheap last week. Love the card, very powerful against Counterbalance, etc. I wouldn't be surprised to see this bounce back up when people realize how good that is.

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    So it seems that the craze is finally coming to an end (hopefully the doomsayers in other topics will also pick it up).

    TnT is no longer buying Wastelands. They are offering $47.50 on NM FoW - they also have both force and wastes in stock
    SCG is buying Wastelands at $30, and FoW at $50, and have abundance of both in stock.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Octopusman View Post
    I feel if they don't print another viable double land (which they may be afraid to), Ancient Tomb will see a rise. Seems like the Stompy Archetype has been getting a lot of attention lately with all the MUD flying around.
    I think that red may see another interesting enchantment or creature at 3cmc (R2 specifically) that will help Dragon Stompy. I think that people will still continue to try to make black stompy work. White/Dutch Stax is a deck that I think could find itself in the Established section soon if it reaches its potential.
    Ancient Tomb is not on the Reserved List, so they might reprint it.

    But yeah, I agree. Dragon Stompy, at the very least, has been pretty good for me, though a bit inconsistent. If I had a good 3-drop, the deck would become pretty powerful.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon_Whelp View Post
    Ancient Tomb is not on the Reserved List, so they might reprint it.

    But yeah, I agree. Dragon Stompy, at the very least, has been pretty good for me, though a bit inconsistent. If I had a good 3-drop, the deck would become pretty powerful.
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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    Even though MTGO isn't really reflective of the paper market too much, in some cases yes, in others not so much. On my twitter feed today i saw one place offering to buy Forces of Will for 120 tickets. I think that is a little extreme considering these are digital copies, but whatever gets you off I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegacyInferno View Post
    Even though MTGO isn't really reflective of the paper market too much, in some cases yes, in others not so much. On my twitter feed today i saw one place offering to buy Forces of Will for 120 tickets. I think that is a little extreme considering these are digital copies, but whatever gets you off I guess.

    I find it baffling that they don't just 'reprint' everything on MTGO that is expensive to drive down the costs. What purpose could this serve?

    Fake decks should not cost hundreds of dollars. This is exactly why I don't play MTGO anymore.

    On topic. What is the recent future looking like for things like The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and Imperial Recruiter? The cards that were the hot rarities like Candelabra but have seriously cooled down in tournament showings.
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    Real decks probably shouldn't cost hundreds of dollars either, but what are you gonna do?
    I see more than others do because I know where to look.

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    I sold off my Tabernacle the other week. I got 180 for it cash, along with some other cards I sold off. I was surprised that Tabernacle was selling for the same as candelabra, which is reasonable I would surmise, both cards are seriously powerful.

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    I was surprised that Tabernacle was selling for the same as candelabra, which is reasonable I would surmise, both cards are seriously powerful.
    I really like the color red, which is reasonable because it is probably my least favorite color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kusumoto View Post
    I find it baffling that they don't just 'reprint' everything on MTGO that is expensive to drive down the costs. What purpose could this serve?

    Fake decks should not cost hundreds of dollars. This is exactly why I don't play MTGO anymore.
    There's actually something of a "MTGO reserved list". Worth Wollpert promised not to reprint cards from ME1 (WTF, right?), so now he doesn't want to put out any more FoWs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdr View Post
    There's actually something of a "MTGO reserved list". Worth Wollpert promised not to reprint cards from ME1 (WTF, right?), so now he doesn't want to put out any more FoWs.
    That's truly tragic.

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    Re: Raise, raise, raise. The price of cardboard

    I never understood why they just stop making cards for MTGO. It makes it a product not worth getting into if you weren't in from at least Master's Edition1 to grab some of the duals. Why kill your own product? I never got their point of view on that. I probably would play it if it wasn't such an investment for virtual cards now. Waste of money now in my book.

    It's like buying a video game for $1000 if you want to play Legacy. Who would buy any video game for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahcmai View Post
    I never understood why they just stop making cards for MTGO. It makes it a product not worth getting into if you weren't in from at least Master's Edition1 to grab some of the duals. Why kill your own product? I never got their point of view on that. I probably would play it if it wasn't such an investment for virtual cards now. Waste of money now in my book.

    It's like buying a video game for $1000 if you want to play Legacy. Who would buy any video game for that?
    Except it's a video game with cash tournaments, etc. I'm up something like 100 tix on MODO right now after ~2 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mchainmail View Post
    Except it's a video game with cash tournaments, etc. I'm up something like 100 tix on MODO right now after ~2 months.
    Which means a lot of players are down some tix.

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    Tix aren't cash. Tix are tix. You can put them up on eBay for cash, but you can do that with cards too.
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    Which means a lot of players are down some tix.
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