Torpor Orb - 2
Artifact
Creatures entering the battlefield doesn't cause abilities to trigger.
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Does anybody realize that this is a better illusionary mask? Playing Phyrexian Dreadnought without it's ability and negating any annoying CIP trigger opponent can have is awesome! Does this have the potential to re-invent Dreadstill with the unholy alliance of Torpor Orb, Dreadnought and Academy Ruins?
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Phyrexian dreadnought will be countered by mental misstep anyway, so who cares... :)
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You very likely can build it without spending any money, just out of what you already have.
An example with my (very large) list in a visual form
But ... But ... Academy Ruins?! ;p
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This has potential as now both combo components are artifacts and getting Dreadnought Forced/Countered/Plowed is no longer card disadvantage. However the combo is slower so some tuning would have to be made. A deck with Fabricate, Trinket Mage, Dreadnought, stifle and Double lands like Tomb/City of Traitors could work. The back up could be force and the new Mental Misstep. Counters STPs and other missteps. LOL. Propaganda might also be needed to keep hoards off you while you smack them with the Nought.
Trinket and Orb dislike eachother and if your counter their vials and Lackeys with Misstep even a turn 3 Naught is fast enough.
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Hunted Horror anyone? Oh, and you can actually try to use Nought in nonblue-based deck with minorsplash for Stifle. Like, Dark Ritual, Orb, Nought. And yeah, StP is nothing 'cause you have Mental Misstep now. Looks like almost-ready deck!
The problem is that unlike Stifle, Orb itself doesn't seem to be good (oh well, it crushes Goblin Matron, Goblin Ringleader and Siege-Gang Commander)
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This is a mental crosspost between this and the Mental Misstep thread: Doesn't make Misstep Stifle less attractive in terms of tempo and don't make Orbs ability to shut-off goblins it a valid REPLACEMENT for Stifle?
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From the top of my head:
MANA:
4 Wasteland
4 Polluted Delta
4 Underground Sea
6 Swamp
1 Island
4 Dark Ritual
PROTECTION
4 Thoughtseize
1 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Mental Misstep
DISRUPTION/ACTIVATORS
4 Stifle
4 Sinkhole
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Torpor Orb
CREATURES
4 Phyrexian Dreadnought
4 Hunted Horror
4 Dark Confidant
Last edited by eq.firemind; 04-20-2011 at 06:34 AM.
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Torpor Orb stops Thopter Foundry + Sword of the Meek as well.
Agree that Sinkhole is garbage, especially with Daze running so rampant. Would rather see Force of Will here. Would anyone consider removing the discard package and adding counterspells? Maybe try Ancient Tomb to accelerate?
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I get for black and discard package to be able to do broken turn 1 plays, evade mana screw with Hunted Horror and enemiy's wastes (manabase pretty solid against non-basic hate).
Sinkhole complements Stifle and Wasteland mana denial theme, that's the reason of inclusion. This is explosive aggro deck after all, so keepeng gamestate in early game state is pretty good.
If you want control, feel free to experiment, just don't compare two decks because by taking out Ritual and otherl black pieces and throwing instuff, you will get completely different deck.
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I'd much rather go the Topor Orb + Eater of Days route, personally.
EDIT: Shit, now I can hard-cast Lord of Tresserhorn with no drawback! Haven't been able to do that since Mask!![]()
I'm just saying this card is really good. I'm pretty sure we'll find a way to make it "too" good.
-Matt
Since you can grab both halves with Enlightened Tutor, I'm tempted to play this alongside the tutor and maybe even painterstone or helm leyline.
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