Ok my friend ill try 10 discard 10 removal without mother... ill test it one week and then... hopefully ill be convinced :) discard = 4 inqui 4 hymn 2 duress removal = 4 stp 4 vindicate 2 ghastly demise
Greetings
Yeah, I like discard more ( at least in my meta it has been better )
My build is a bit weird, but I run 4 Thoughtseize + 4 Hymn + 2 Kozilek I.
Test it out and let me know what you think ( Also let us know against which decks did you test ), btw, I run 3 Gatekeeper of Malakir + 4 StP and I also have 1 go for the throat ... ( which I may replace for +1 Kozilek or something else )
Cheers :^)
To keep it as easy as possible Ill start posting my deck
4 Gatekeeper
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Mother of Runes
4 Dark Confidant
2 Jotun Grunt
2 Stoneforge Mystic
2 Phyrexian Obliterator
4 Vindicate
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Ghastly Demise
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Umezawas Jitte
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
OK thats the deck im running atm
and im testing it mainly vs: GW Aggro and Affinity - sometimes vs GWB DnT and Rock and Landstill
What would you change Mother of Runes with?
Would you keep Ghastly Demise while running Jotuns?
Greetings
Yeah, i tried my deck with mother.
And i have to say without mother im better with.
I'm playing dark rituals instead.
Btw.
My removals are 3 gatekeeper,4 StoP, 3 Vindicate (sideboard 3 diabolic edict )
Discard: 4 hymn, 3 duress, 2 IoK
this is a nice number of discard i think.
I've got a lot of first turn discard + Bob with ritual.
But as you said. Try it end show us your results. I'm interested in.
I'm actually trying it with 3 Bitterblossoms and 3 mirran crusader.
And it's nice to have a double sword effect.
Then Id love to have your meta... in my meta its like that: If you dont use your discard spells in the first 4 turns the enemy played all his hand and discards are a dumb topdeck - then....
so failure....
and...you are really ok with 4 stp and 4 vindicate? + 3 gatekeeper - i mean i run a gatekeeper more + 4 ghastly demise and sometimes i cant stop the waves of enemies.... hmmm
is there any matchup analysis for deadguy?
How about playing Smother as removal 12-16? and 4 discard^^ ill try
Greetings
Been quite fine with just 4 Thoughtseizes, 4 Tidehollow Sculler, 4 swords and 2 vindicates in my Vial version. Got 3 Perish in the board for the decks with majority of green creatures. Against Merfolk and Goblins, Jitte and Sword of Fire and Ice can handle the extra creatures.
I dont like having to much maindecked Creature removal tbh. If you for some reason would face combo you got so many dead cards in your deck wich you probly cant even board out in thoes matchups. Extra removal i would have put thoes into the board tbh.
TBH Im really tempted to try out the Chrom Mox version as it can go t1 BOB, Stoneforge, Hymn or Bitterblossom in a world of Mental Missteps. Like the 2 Deadguy decks that toped 8 last SCG open. IMO Deadguy is THE Stoneforge and Dark Confidant Deck in legacy.
Ehm you still play with vial and Tidehollow? Didnt know some people still do that - im surprised^^ but ok - mind posting your version? im keen on this one to be honest :)
you run 4 SFMs i suppose? Im running 2 atm....
Atm I only run 3 SFM but thinking of adding the 4th and adding a Batterskull into the Stoneforge package. Just need to get my 4th foiled one :POriginally Posted by Philipp802
I did post my list a couple of pages back. However thinking of new version as I find Mirran Crusader to be to good not to be played in a deck with a Stoneforge Mystic package.
It should contain: bob, stoneforge, swords, knife and butter, Mirran crusaders, Bitterblossom, x discards dispells probly 4 thoughtseize 4 hymns, Chrom moxes, Vindicates, wastelands, Gatekeepers, Swords and Fetid Heaths.
In my meta is ALL!
RLY ALL!
And yeah, i'm fine with my removals. Btw i play 3 vindicates not 4.
You shouldn't have to many removals in your deck.
If you are playing 12-16 removals and you are playing against combo like T.E.S or playing against 43 lands for example, you can't board out all removals.
Atm, im playing 3 SfM with 2 jitte, 1 Sofai, 1 batterscull.
More equipp as SfM? Yes. I draw automatically 1 equipp in each game and 3 SfM are fine.
Don't have to much and never draw no SfM
And a turn 2 SfM isn't my friend. I wanna play Bob instead.
A question outside at all.
Why is Dark Confidant called BoB?^^
I mean, his head is funny but i would call him Ken.
(Barbie and Ken) :D
Dark Confidant is Bob cos Bob made it :D Its inventational card like Meddling Mage, shadowmage infiltrator and other.
guys im just shocked - please take a look at the list up there and change mother with hymn ...but...
i just played vs a friend and his gw zenith aggro and lost 0-5
HOW?
What is so fucking wrong at this built?
Greetings
Guess your should try some protection green like Sword of Feast and Famine and Mirran Crusader and replace SoLaS with SoFaI. There is alot of good green creatures to justice protection from green on Mirran Crusader and SoFaF. I also feel the Deadguy need one of the following cards to be a more unfair deck, Chrom Mox, Dark Ritual and AEther Vial.
I tried something new.... more or less^^
I transformed my deadguy ale into a aether build with aether at 2 - so no more creatures over 2 + i added 4 SFM + equip PLUS batterskull - and im very convinced that this artifact is worth it - 2 Mana 4/4 viginlance lifelink - thats just great :)
Greetings
I think your problem is, that you lose a game and wanna change your deck.
you should play it more and more to see how it works.
for example your 0:5 game.
you played 5 games - lost them - and wanna change and change.
just think a bit about it. pls
Hmmm anyways...
Did any1 try batterskull yet in a Deadguybuild? What was your list and how did it work?
Greetings
Get a room you two!
the only green creature that should trouble you is terravore. you hopefully have a mix of gatekeepers, nighthawks, crusader's, sfm (atleast a f&f in the side), bob, mom etc. most of your creatures are trumps to theirs. they either trade or do more than that.
what aspect of g/w zenith are you being troubled with?
Thanks for the help, but Itd would just spamm this whole thread full with just me having problems with a certain deck - Id prefer hearing your thoughts and tests on Batterskull?
Plus I had a new idea, we could work out a BEST list of Deadguy together. I had this idea when i read this on the first post
"After watching him go to the finals with this deck, I am convinced with proper tweaking (if possible?) this could be the deck to beat. I will easily say that he should have won the Grand Prix, as I for one can't name a deck that wins against Goblins with 1 land out other than 1 land Belcher."
So, I think Ill just start posting the deck with the cards I think that are very important, and all new of you, copy it and edit it and paste it in your new post and at the end we got a PERFECT deadguydeck^^
4 Scrubland
4 Wasteland
4 Marsh Flats
4 Dark Confidant
4 Swords to plowshares
- Thats the cards I am sure no1 doesnt have in his deck, now some1 else edit this please to your thoughts and so on and so on.
And at the end we got a Deck to Beat - I promise you
Greetings and Godspeed
Sry but this is fact, Philip.
Yeah im testing Batterscull at the moment and i have to say it's nice to have.
Opponent attacks you and you play in response Batterscull with SfM.
So test it too. It's nice.
I would add this to this List.
4 Hymn to Tourach
3-4 Stoneforge Mystic ( im not sure 3 or 4. Im playing 3 atm)
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
2 Umezawa's Jitte
Okay to make this work, you have to post the whole list, so mine + yours, Ill show you what I meant
ok, new List is now
4 Wasteland
4 Scrubland
4 Marsh Flats
4 Dark Confidant
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Hymn to Tourach
2 Umezawas Jitte
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
If some1 thinks this list has a mistake, just post this list and edit it as you wanted:) hope all of you got it now.
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