[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Richard Cheese]

It must be super cool for Apathy House to list it.

I changed my mind, but I can't go a penny over $15,999.

I'll do it as a set with this totally tits laserpenis Phelddagrif for only four easy payments of $4,999 each!

[dahcmai]

@Mr C. I actually agree with a lot of that little review of M12. It is one disappointing set this time around. The only thing I think I'd argue with is the Boots. Those are EDH gold and I already can get $3 a pop out of them. I have a ton and I love this card so far. I play EDH so I know why. I kept 8 for myself. The foils of it are very worth mentioning considering how much they are going for and that's not going to change much. EDH staples are oddly in demand considerably higher than people think. Those boots are one of the new staples. People like throwing crap on the general too much to not like that card.

That new Jace will go down then right back up before the rotation considering he's the last remaining vestige of card draw in standard come innistrad. The only other choices become Divination (which blows) and Blue Sun's Zenith (which is way color heavy). Sad but true. Hopefully Innistrad itself has some good replacement in it.

Garruck is pretty good as a card, just bad timing to be used. In a world of combo in standard, I don't want to be playing mono-green.

Good review though, it's just sad how right you are about that stuff.


As far as Legacy goes, meh. Ignore set, move on, give us more flashback crap please.

[bruizar]

Garruk seems like a much more potent draw engine compared to jace 3, but who knows. After all garruk isn't blue.

[kiblast]

@Mr.C: I agree with most of the obvious bulk rares, however I'm not seeing any Primeval Titan or Grave Titan hit lower than 8-10$ for the first and a bit less for the latter... also buying Simulacrum at 2$ is impossible.

[tsabo_tavoc]

As a Legacy player, the only cards I preordered from M12 are Phantasmal Image (playset @$6), Elvish Archdruid ($4, I knew it was going to be reprinted and knew it would never be bulk) and Sundial ($6). Preordering cards is generally a bad idea and here are the reasons I am doing this time:

1. M12 is a poor set. (see the WWK lesson)
2. Image will be used in the most popular Legacy deck; Sundial has a unique effect at a reasonable cost. I may be able to get them for half I paid for the preorder, but I do not want to take the risk as they will end up higher, if not much higher some day.
3. I do not speculate, I only enjoy buying my cards cheap.

[phonics]

Yeah I was at a shop today and he had a foil chinese boots, was surprised when he said it was 12$. Greaves are only a little more expensive, and there is a lot more m12 to open, leading one to believe that the price cant be that high forever. I'm not too sure when to pull the trigger. I think since EDH is passing legacy (as the new hotness) with the release of the precons, so wonky speculation is going to be common, keeping prices volatile. The upcoming block looks to cater to all 3 formats so it could get crazy.

Come rotation, standard is going to be powered down some (color fixing and drawing become much poorer), so I think titans will remain at the forefront of the meta, the only other reprinted mythic that was decent that I can recall was baneslayer and that dropped to ~10$ even though it became practically irrelevant due to the titans.

[Mr.C]

@Mr.C: I agree with most of the obvious bulk rares, however I'm not seeing any Primeval Titan or Grave Titan hit lower than 8-10$ for the first and a bit less for the latter... also buying Simulacrum at 2$ is impossible.

Thing with Primeval, I looked at where Frost Titan is ($3 ish, granted he has a promo), and then with Valakut rotating, where exactly do you want to play him? Grave will be held back by the fact there is a Promo version, I would think.

Solemn was possible to buy at 2 right before EDH took off. Heck, I'd see sales lists with him at 2-2.50 on MOTL forever with no takers. I just don't see him holding value while being a rare.

[sdematt]

I've bought one for 2.5 a week ago. They're reprinted, and they're everywhere. You can find people willing to unload at 2.5-3.

-Matt

[death]

Used Warrior's Oath, 89 euros? Price history from previous week: $9.99, $24.99, $49.99

magiccardmarket.eu

[sporenfrosch1411]

Its random hype, nobody needs that card _AT ALL_
Some guys saw someone bragging here with that card, then just bought the 4-5 that were avaible on MkM, and WOW, now a new random hyped card is created. Stay real and admit that this card is just crap....

[dontbiteitholmes]

Used Warrior's Oath, 89 euros? Price history from previous week: $9.99, $24.99, $49.99

magiccardmarket.eu

OH MY GOD ONE GUY IS TRYING TO SELL WARRIOR'S OATH @ 89Euros, IT MUST BE WORTH THAT...

By the way, let me know when you sell yours so I can provide post game analysis for this awesome speculation.

[KevinTrudeau]

Textbook example of the greater fool theory.

Sadly, this won't be the last time this happens.

[dahcmai]

Did you guys get to watch the near instant sell out of Nether Shadows last night? Gawd, that was funny. Way to speculate on a card there's entirely too many of. It may be old, but there's a ton of those out there.

Anyway, I am starting to wonder something. I keep noticing I'm having a hard time finding cards that shouldn't be hard to find. Especially foils of older cards that no one really cares about. It's weird.

Is the supply of older stuff just finally spread out among Europe and Asia to the point of making people notice the supply is almost gone now? I keep running into the problem of trying to hunt down cards that don't seem to be on sale anywhere and if they are, they usually are the overpriced Ebay auctions.

I used to be able to find just about anything online, now it seems that some particular cards have just dried up completely. I've had Email notifications set up for several cards with several sites and I never see them pop up. It's getting weird.

Whatever happened to the days where you could run into random people with Arabian cards in binders on a regular basis. Now I'm lucky to run into people with anything older than Lorwyn.

[MattH]

Did you guys get to watch the near instant sell out of Nether Shadows last night? Gawd, that was funny. Way to speculate on a card there's entirely too many of. It may be old, but there's a ton of those out there.

Anyway, I am starting to wonder something. I keep noticing I'm having a hard time finding cards that shouldn't be hard to find. Especially foils of older cards that no one really cares about. It's weird.

Is the supply of older stuff just finally spread out among Europe and Asia to the point of making people notice the supply is almost gone now? I keep running into the problem of trying to hunt down cards that don't seem to be on sale anywhere and if they are, they usually are the overpriced Ebay auctions.

I used to be able to find just about anything online, now it seems that some particular cards have just dried up completely. I've had Email notifications set up for several cards with several sites and I never see them pop up. It's getting weird.

Whatever happened to the days where you could run into random people with Arabian cards in binders on a regular basis. Now I'm lucky to run into people with anything older than Lorwyn.

What kind of stuff do you mean? The only thing that comes to mind was that about a month ago, FMc and tcgplayer together had about a half dozen copies of Mana Reflection, but that's since been rectified.

[Bignasty197]

When Stoneforge Mystic first came out, I bought 24 of them for $3 a piece. My best friend told me I was stupid for doing so, then I sold 20 of them at $25 a piece to lots of those silly Standard players when it hit its peak price.

[Koby]

Did you guys get to watch the near instant sell out of Nether Shadows last night? Gawd, that was funny. Way to speculate on a card there's entirely too many of. It may be old, but there's a ton of those out there.

Anyway, I am starting to wonder something. I keep noticing I'm having a hard time finding cards that shouldn't be hard to find. Especially foils of older cards that no one really cares about. It's weird.

Is the supply of older stuff just finally spread out among Europe and Asia to the point of making people notice the supply is almost gone now? I keep running into the problem of trying to hunt down cards that don't seem to be on sale anywhere and if they are, they usually are the overpriced Ebay auctions.

I used to be able to find just about anything online, now it seems that some particular cards have just dried up completely. I've had Email notifications set up for several cards with several sites and I never see them pop up. It's getting weird.

Whatever happened to the days where you could run into random people with Arabian cards in binders on a regular basis. Now I'm lucky to run into people with anything older than Lorwyn.

I remember that time too, about 5 years ago. I blame EDH mostly, for both increasing the value of my collection (which won't be sold anyway, and hence matters little to me), and for making it expensive to actually find old cards that had marginal play value.

[sdematt]

I don't even both looking in binders, I just ask people how long they've played/how old their cards are.

I think it's just supply shuffling around, and also like you said, EDH making crap cards worth money. Honestly, most of this junk would be bulk if it weren't for EDH, so people are using and distributing what, years ago, they'd normally have a 5-row of.

-Matt

[dontbiteitholmes]

As a guy who came back into Magic with little more than a collection of filler rares I'm not mad at EDH at all. I can't even begin to mention how many former nickel rares I've dumped @ $2-4 because of EDH. I mean peace out Mimano, Soltari Guerrillas, Erayo, ext.

[Mr.C]

Did you guys get to watch the near instant sell out of Nether Shadows last night? Gawd, that was funny. Way to speculate on a card there's entirely too many of. It may be old, but there's a ton of those out there.

Yeah, I say that. Are people thinking it's the next Sylvan Library? I hope so, because I've got a billion of them that nobody has *ever* wanted!

[death]

I'm going to cash those in right now if I were you, don't wanna miss a golden opportunity here.