[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[Einherjer]

I bought one Wasteland for 40 pounds and the other for 25 Euro... on one day...wtf... :P

[Richard Cheese]

Pounds? Euros?

I can't understand your crazy Moon language!!!



Also why is Vindicate $30 now?

[(nameless one)]

Also why is Vindicate $30 now?

I think its because it has so many purposes:

Choose one - Destroy target artifact, destroy target creature, destroy target enchantment, destroy target land or destroy target planeswalker

[trivial_matters]

Vindicate's price has been steadily rising for a while now. It didn't jump overnight.

[kiblast]

I bought one Wasteland for 40 pounds and the other for 25 Euro... on one day...wtf... :P

Honestly, a Wasteland for 40 pounds is a fucking robbery, Sir.

[GGoober]

I don't remember Wastelands ever being 70. They were pretty close to $50 for a while now they seem to have settled around $40ish give or take $3-5. I bought a playset of Wastelands this calender year for $80 (Long since traded for Trops which I needed to finish a playset) so they have come down a tad from the absolute peak but that's only because most people who were bidding them up to $50 have them now.

Here's a graph of MOTL prices over the last 6 months I found


Either way I don't think it has anything to do with a dire prophesy for the future of Legacy. Prices on Magic cards in general usually go down over the Summer and bounce back again when school starts. Prices dipped towards the end of last Summer too for Legacy staples only to rise higher than ever this year.

Does anyone have a graph of SCG Wasteland stock? Would be great to see them 'manipulate' the market as an experiment, unload at peak, profit! That would be some cool analysis if people had the data :P

[dontbiteitholmes]

Does anyone have a graph of SCG Wasteland stock? Would be great to see them 'manipulate' the market as an experiment, unload at peak, profit! That would be some cool analysis if people had the data :P

If what Ben says is true then it was other stores overvaluing Wasteland which caused the price to go up, not SCG.

[Solaran_X]

If what Ben says is true then it was other stores overvaluing Wasteland which caused the price to go up, not SCG.

Do you really think SCG would admit to manipulating the market if they were doing it?

[thecrav]

Do you really think SCG would admit to manipulating the market if they were doing it?

A lot of stores have started basing their prices off of their competitors prices. Each time one of them raises or lowers a price, many of the others immediately follow. I know there are even some stores that do this automatically. Each time a store that uses this method or is targeted by this method alters a price, they have manipulated the market, intentionally or not.

[dahcmai]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

[Octopusman]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

That time is now.

[Koby]

I remember dahcmai gamed the market a few years ago with Sea Drake. He mentioned it sometime earlier in this thread.

[Mr.C]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

Are you saying I should pick a card of which there are none available on ebay, and none available at any major retailer, and post it on ebay for an exorbitant price, then wait for someone to buy it?

[KindGrind]

After having gathered pretty much all the legacy staples I needed to play the decks I wanted, I'm trying to get into EDH, and while most of what I wanted was under the dollar range, prices a few cards surprised me, apart from the usual suspects. This may be obvious to seasoned edh players, but coming from a legacy perspective, this can't but surprise me. Off the top of my head, obviously there are heaps more:

Woodfall Primus
Gauntlet of Power
Mana Reflection
Patron Wizard
Magistrate's Scepter
Defense of the Heart
Karmic Guide
Privileged Position


A few lands, too... Yavimaya Hollow, Winding Canyons, Reliquary Tower, Homeward Path... pretty much any playable land that produces a colorless seems to be worth something. Obviously when a legacy playable card is also an edh staple, things get ridiculous. Are the prices on this type of card speculative, or people really bought that much Magisrate's Scepters to drive the price up little by little?

[swoop]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

Lets all start buying Swiss Frank and pretend its a very safe money.

Oh wait.

[Tha Gunslinga]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

Can you please stop bragging? It gets really old.

[thecrav]

I'm going to have to show you guys an experiment sometime. It's not hard to change prices to fit what you like. It's scary, but true. We'll have to purposefully do it sometime to prove a point to people.

Raising prices, sure. I'd like to see you lower prices.

I'll take USeas for $50.00 .

[TsumiBand]

Does anyone have a graph of SCG Wasteland stock? Would be great to see them 'manipulate' the market as an experiment, unload at peak, profit! That would be some cool analysis if people had the data :P

http://www.findmagiccards.com/Cards/TP/Wasteland.html

[evanmartyr]

Sorry Ben, I didn't mean to use lackey in a bad way, I'm just so used to using that phrase for all people engaging the public. Sorry about that.

Like I said, VERY professional, even the hired help. Everyone was really good. The event was also really well run, the judges were great, etc.

-Matt

In my (admittedly limited) experience working the booth last year at SCG Minneapolis, I was very impressed with how the supply side of the event was run. Casual/friendly and very, very efficient (or as efficient as you can possibly get setting up and taking down mountains of product each day). But God my feet hurt on Sunday.

@Dahcmai: Put your money where your mouth is, man. Sulfurous Springs at 20.00 or bust!

[dahcmai]

It would be rough to get Sulfurous at that price. You pretty much have to pick something that's already in a fairly short supply so you can buy it out constantly.

Lowering is pretty much flooding and convincing the vendors to buy those dirt cheap no matter what. It's been done before. Underground is a short supply one so it would be a pain to try that. Not to mention, convincing anyone to pass up cheap Undergrounds is a losing cause in itself.

I'll pick a 3 kingdoms card to jack the price on. Those are pretty simple to raise and there's a few small playable gems in the mix anyway. Also getting a decently known player to play them in a deck is the fun part. I'll gladly lend a set to do it.