So how is this really with duel deck and similar reprints that have the modern frame? Like Brainstorm or the commander cards? Are they legal? Not that I'm ever going to play that format with that banned list, just curious..Originally Posted by Antonius
I assumed this whole "every card with a modern frame" was made to help kiddies know which cards are legal just by looking at them..now making a lot of exceptions doesn't make a lot of sense.
That's...a terrible banned list. I no longer care about this format.
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I was saying Modern is joke all week long. Now I can actually point to why it's so.
R&D really needs to start playing Legacy on a more regular basis to understand what kinds of mistakes they've been putting out in recent history.
The best part was when I got to MM, and realized we're being trolled.
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Don't think Merfolk will really be that strong considering that the metagame now will look like 12post, zoo, and Bant...all decks that will probably make a traditional merfolk deck ported over to Modern cry big, salty tears. Remember Merfolk likes to see blue decks on the other side of the table...and I kind of doubt we will see a lot of blue control decks as the opponent with the banned list as it is...
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Holy shot goyf is the single best card in modem right now. It's gonna be a 100 dollar card. Zoo and 12 post are the only tier 1 left. Blue or raped hard, but look for sleepers on gifts and fact or fiction. Those are the he's card draw left.
Btw junk is so awesome in thing format. Gsz, tarmo, kotr, bob and discard in one deck? Holy cow overpowered much? Junk basically lost vindicate, hymn and mox diamond. You can play maelstrome pulse any tidehollow sculler though.
I'm definitely interested in seeing where this will go. People hoping for Budget Legacy or Legacy Lite are probably disappointed, but that shouldn't be one format's role, to make up for another. Keep in mind, they did say they may have overbanned and that stuff may be taken off accordingly. Without knowing anything about how it will play out, i'm in a "wait and see" mode.
They banned Golgari Grave Troll? Fucking lol.
Wanna play combo? At least there's still dragonstorm :)
Wow, I didn't expect such a large banned list.
Looks like Big Naya Zoo with Punishing Fire or Jund Midrange is in a good position. And the totally made Affinity unplayable. :( I would have loved to see an old fair Broodstar Affinity deck playable.
12 'post Tooth and Nail looks to be one of the best strategies. As a result, LD Zoo looks like it could be along with the standard zoo options. As for combo options, Hive Mind is still (mostly) there and Living End is a sower, sightly worse version of Hypergenesis. Dragonstorm still works too I bet. A Rockish build should show up, it always seems to and Aggro Loam keeps most of its major components that it had when it was effective in the old extended from 5 or 6 years ago while adding a few new cards. It looks like it could be a healthy format. That being said, I think I am going to update my MOTL have wants and look for Dragonstorm stuff while they are still cheap.
Grapeshot / Ignite Memories worked, too in Standard a few years ago.
WotC's target demographic is awkward middle school kids to young adults just a hair shy of being able to buy alcohol. These are the people that buy and open all the packs. These are the people that make up most FNM nights at local stores.These are also the same people that think a counterspell or a combo deck is "cheating".
Gas prices are through the roof; the cost of food keeps going up; everyone is out of work, but people are buying magic cards left and right. When things have gone to shit, people turn to entertainment to take their mind off the pertinent issues. So WotC is doing all they can to hurl more product and incentives to those that keep them in business.
Hence the dumbed down new "intuitive" rules. Or a shit tonne of new, special, super, fun, awesome, limited, rare, ultra, foil collector's sets and duel decks and the like. Or this cheap and easy kiddy version of legacy. Maximizing profit is all that this comes down to, as that will ALWAYS be their primary concern.
Mental Misstep? What are they thinking?
#1 - A card that any color can play that counters itself...
#2 - In a format where the best lands and the only fetchable duals burn you for 2 or CIPT...
#3 - One of the best anti-combo cards ever printed...
They are worried about control in Modern? That is funny. Good luck popping off that Ancestral Visions or paying 2 life to counter a spell and still winning without decent duals, Batterskull, or Jace TMS, or Faeries...
Oh well, at least the line has been drawn in the sand. WotC has pretty much come out and said with this, "Modern is not Legacy and it's not trying to be." Good job on crushing Extended for a format people may actually care about a little. The ban list is LOL but at least they killed the correct format so I don't care.
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I'm inclined to agree, he seems like a very stereotypical EDH player in terms of wanting to define what's fun by calling everything better than the decks he likes to play unfun, and then banning them.
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Pretty sure they missed a very strong combo deck.
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Been there, tried that, still casting Doomsday.
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Which would be?....
You can play Second Sunrise.dec I guess..
And Dragonstorm without Dragonstorm?
Dragonstorm was in TimeSpiral -> check it out, its legal then ;)
Tom actually is a complete Spike. The MTGO Classic community invited him and Eric Lauer to play in their own format, and Tom brought Combo Oath. He has a keen awareness of developing formats - but remember that his role is Development, and not Design.
He has posted in our forums before regarding quashing the stale evolution of Legacy and how the more fit strategies will survive and overtake the weaker ones.
That said, I think R&D is just being overly cautious with Modern for the time being due to the high risk of putting it front and center for PT Philly.
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