The deck is very good(although I prefer GW Bombs Dump).. the question is that Americans trust too much in SCG/Pros reviews and they usually don't like playing a non-blue deck, but here in brazil where Merfolks/Goblins/Zoo are very present mid-range like GW and BGW are both a solid choice.
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Hopefully Marius Hausmann who recently won the Legacy side event at the German Nationals will take his chance and go to the next (?) SCG Invitational and own those wannabes. I am pretty sure GW in the hands of a really good players could do so freaking well in metagame existing there currently ...
This is the list I am tooling around with:
// Lands
2 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
2 [R] Savannah
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
2 [LG] Karakas
3 [TE] Wasteland
2 [NPH] Plains (1)
2 [NPH] Forest (1)
1 [MM] Tower of the Magistrate
1 [DK] Maze of Ith
1 [FUT] Dryad Arbor
// Creatures
1 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
4 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
3 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
3 [TSP] Mangara of Corondor
1 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
4 [UL] Mother of Runes
3 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
3 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
1 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
1 [CMD] Scavenging Ooze
1 [FD] Eternal Witness
1 [OD] Terravore
// Spells
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
4 [V10] AEther Vial
4 [DDF] Swords to Plowshares
3 [MBS] Green Sun's Zenith
1 [NPH] Batterskull
2 [LG] Sylvan Library
// Sideboard
SB: 2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 3 [ALA] Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 [TSP] Krosan Grip
SB: 2 [FNM] Wing Shards
SB: 2 [DK] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 1 [WWK] Bojuka Bog
SB: 2 [TE] Choke
SB: 1 [MBS] Thrun, the Last Troll
One of the hardest matchups was UR SneakShow for me. Everything else I came across was ok.
I really dunno what to do as tariff seems not to be worth the slots because it is only good vs Show and Tell.
I think Gaea's Cradle is great. And I rly should find place for Eternal Witness and maybe Qasali #2. Just don't know how to do it without cutting Mental Misstep.
My current list:
4 Windswept Heath
2 Verdant Catacombs
2 Horizon Canopy
3 Savannah
1 Taiga
1 Plains
1 Forest
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Maze of Ith
1 Gaea's Cradle
4 Wasteland
1 Karakas
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3 Noble Hierarch
1 Birds of Paradise
4 Mother of Runes
3 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Aven Mindcensor
4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Thrun the Last Troll
1 Scryb Ranger
2 Sylvan Library
3 Mental Misstep
3 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Batterskull
1 Umezawa's Jitte
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1 Enlightened Tutor
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Choke
1 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Krosan Grip
1 Elspeth, Knight Errant
1 Thrun the Last Troll
1 Bojuka Bog
4 Red Elemental Blast
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The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
Last edited by testing32; 08-23-2011 at 09:45 AM.
That's the fun part about the deck:
You can't really play hate against it. It's just big fat creatures beating your ass.
Maybe Perish helps, but then again normally you just play one fattie at the time anyway.
If you want hate against GW creatures, you should consider playing ANT or Hive Mind. :-P
I see some lists with Life from the Loam in the sideboard. What decks do you board it in against?
Control / other midrange decks / slow combo ( like alluren )
It wins games :) especially against control.
I'm still not sure. Do you then go nuts with wasteland? Or is it just good to have more mana?
Mostly Wastelock + Recurring Dryad Arbor with Equips, also recurring Canopy to have CA. It's also nice vs some MU which attack your mana base for example aggro loam, works also nice vs Junks to bring back lands after Hymn to Tourach..
I am debating internally about the merits of adding Red Elemental Blast to the sideboard. This could be achieved by cutting 1 basic Forest for a Taiga. This would also improve some of the combo matchups as well as having a very good answer for Jace TMS.
Any thoughts from more seasoned players about such a strategy?
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It's funny because I had the exact same thought some days ago. However, I can't really tell if the stretch in the manabase would be worth the merits of doing so. What's most important to me: what would you cut from the sb? Dedicated blue hate like Choke? - I don't like that, especially since Choke is way superior against Control. Or storm/combo hate like Cannonist/Thorn? Form my perspective one would have to actually cut non-control, con-combo sb cards to gain an additional edge in those matchups...REB/Pyroblast alone isn't gonna cut it, I believe.
The seven cardinal sins of Legacy:
1. Discuss the unbanning ofLand TaxEarthcraft.
2. Argue that banning Force of Will would make the format healthier.
3. Play Brainstorm without Fetchlands.
4. Stifle Standstill.
5. Think that Gaea's Blessing will make you Solidarity-proof.
6. Pass priority after playing Infernal Tutor.
7. Fail to playtest against Nourishing Lich (coZ iT wIlL gEt U!).
Haha, I was thinking the exact same thing at work a few days ago. REB would be so nice in the board, and we could easily achieve this with only adding one dual. But I love Choke, and adding REB to the board would most likely mean cutting Choke. Is it worth it? I don't think it is in a Stoneblade meta.
But I may test this idea shortly. I am about to move to a new (and unknown) meta for a while, and I have been thinking about trying this slight red splash.
Maybe a better question altogether:
Would splashing more red into the deck give us similar tools like Natural Ordergained when it dropped
?
(I advocate a consideration of/
, which gives us Burning-Tree Shaman, Bloodbraid Elf, and Ajani Vengeant as a contenders too.)
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Burning-Tree Shaman can kill us faster, then it kills our opponent. )
I play 4 sb ReB for about 6-7 days already and they are ok.
Current SB:
4 Red elemental blast
2 Krosan Grip
3 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Bojuka Bog
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
2 Choke
1 Gaddock Teeg/ Elspeth(depends on meta)
to run ReB's I cut 2 Canonists, second Thrun(1 in md), and Sword of Light and Shadow.
If you guys are contemplating on adding red on the SB, if in some way wild nacatl would somehow fit in the creature base it would be wonderful i think...
By the way how are you guys matching up against fast zoo decks.., based on my testing im its a bad matchup.. as they are very quick in dealing damage and dropping creatures or burning your creatures. I find it had hard to stabilize against them.
I feel the same about fast Zoo, we playtested 6 matches last night and I could just win a single game. Jitte felt too slow and I never got a mother online... Afterwards I considered putting Goyf back into the deck, but I think this needs more testing.
I have a few questions according the Sideboard strategies.
I have another question about Sword of Light and Shadow - I have seen it in many Sideboards, and I am still not sure which MU benefits from bringing it in.
And how about Wing Shards - In what MU do you bring them in?
best regards,
bob
I feel the same about fast Zoo, we playtested 6 matches last night and I could just win a single game. Jitte felt too slow and I never got a mother online... Afterwards I considered putting Goyf back into the deck, but I think this needs more testing.
I have a few questions according the Sideboard strategies.
I have another question about Sword of Light and Shadow - I have seen it in many Sideboards, and I am still not sure which MU benefits from bringing it in.
And how about Wing Shards - In what MU do you bring them in?
best regards,
bob
I play GBW junk and simply can not win this MU. Every card maverick has is a threat, even Noble Hierarch.
If he starts with Mother, I need to kill it outright.
If he starts with Hierarch, I can expect him to land a T2 KotR.
If he plays a Library, I need to destroy it imidiately.
If he's untapped with 3 mana open, I can't fetch casually.
My threats are not so threatining. I had an opening like T1 Swamp, mox, hymn, and Maverick dudes recuperated very fast.
GW Maverick rox.
Although, I think that Maverick is an underdog vs firespout decks.
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