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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Funny that they mention the fact the card is played in nonblue decks as a con of the card. It's a good thing. And banning MM won't fix the blue dominance at all, it's funny that they ban card filters in all format except legacy. Now we are back to aggro lists being bye for storm.

    No unbans seriously sucks.

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    I'll comment when I'll get back from work, but all I can say is : YEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS!!!!

    I have never been so relieved, when it came to MtG. Good riddance Misstep.
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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Humphrey View Post


    -monoU
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    The deck better be mono U, because it needs way to many land to win. Cunning Wish is also not an advantage at all, because it costs 3. That's a million in Legacy. Other combo has Burning Wish as well. The carddraw is only good combo. FoW is a decent card, but not nearly enough reason to run it over a deck that can just win 2 turns earlier.
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    Anyone up for a sidebet that the same people who were whining that Mental Misstep should be banned (and are soo happy now that it happened) will be whining again how SD.Top and Counterbalance have to be absolutely banned because OMG this so so format-warping in 2-3 months....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TkDodo View Post
    Anyone up for a sidebet that the same people who were whining that Mental Misstep should be banned (and are soo happy now that it happened) will be whining again how SD.Top and Counterbalance have to be absolutely banned because OMG this so so format-warping in 2-3 months....
    Top/CB were already having some issues before MM came out. I don't see how the ban suddenly resolves those issues.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    As much as I weep for my pile of now useless missteps (jap foil and English foils!!), it probably is good for the format in general. Something from blue had to go. Blue was just too good. I'm looking forward to a once again wide open field.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by TkDodo View Post
    Anyone up for a sidebet that the same people who were whining that Mental Misstep should be banned (and are soo happy now that it happened) will be whining again how SD.Top and Counterbalance have to be absolutely banned because OMG this so so format-warping in 2-3 months....
    SDT, LED, Show & Tell and Time Spiral ... we had this discussion in the B&R thread here on the board before Misstep was printed and I predicted that we'll revisit that mindset in the next 6 months.

    Zoo/Goblins/Meerfolk crush Team Amerika/Countertop but looses to SpiralTide/TES resulting in a discussion how to kill... sorry "weaken" ... combo-decks.



    The only hope for counterbalance is Stoneforge Mystic with a good anti creature layout like Bolt/Lavamancer maindeck. Past in Flames pushes Storm and SpiralTide can do tricks with snapcaster (which should half in price w/o misstep).

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    so long misstep, hope to see you again in my lifetime :(

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post

    P.S. Banning Misstep but not Aether Vial is a mistake if you want to revive the meta
    Ur, no. Snapcaster is still pretty insane.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    I dont expect to see the glorified metagame some people including wizards expect now. In a few weeks there will be another 4-5 Tier1 Decks dominating the T16 like now. And theyre going to be blue.

    I hope the conclusion will be to unban some cards, instead of going the modern route of banning more cards.

    Mental Misstep was the best thing that happened to Legacy in the past years and I hope the whiners will notice that now its gone.
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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Guess it's time to change the banner again.

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    What is it with everyone saying Tendrils decks are going to make a sudden comeback and ruin the format? Any Mental Missteps are going to arguably be replaced with Spell Snare or Spell Pierce in the MD and aggro-control will have the same counter density as before. About the only leg up Tendrils gets is that Xantid Swarm is more reliable out of the SB. This match up always comes down to whether or not aggro-control SBs for the match up, not which counter spells it uses MD.

    High Tide on the other hand looks pretty damn scary again.

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Changing one card for another card of a similar function but a lower power level weakens a decklist. People shouldn't just assume decks will be the same but replacing MM with Spell Snare, in fact that's kind of silly.

    Although blue will still be dominant so High Tide is a much better bet than Tendrils.

    Actually I'm expecting the meta to be much more blue than before.
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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Misstep allowed totally non-blue decks to act like blue in a narrow, but relevant range. Now we have to play the real thing again. I guess at the end of the day they asked "Is nearly everyone playing it?" and got a yes.

    The Modern bannings make it more obvious as to what they want the format to be, and will ban everything and anything stat stands in the way. Zoo is the fastest deck. Period. All other decks need to control zoo to live long enough to win.
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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    They should have just banned brainstorm if they want to lower the power level of blue... seriously.... and they should clearly see that brainstorm has a crazy power level since they banned all its try hard look a likes in modern...

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    Re: The September 20th 2011 Banned / Restricted List Update Reaction Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer View Post
    Yep DCI/Wizards never fails... those that cry the loudest wins!
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    For the Legacy part, I did not expect, but I am not surprised due to all the whiners. Hell, I know I am happy. I don't have to think about slotting Dredge hates for the GP because I will dust off my good old decks to Storm, Storm, Storm, be it The Epic Storm or High Tide. So happy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin View Post
    Changing one card for another card of a similar function but a lower power level weakens a decklist. People shouldn't just assume decks will be the same but replacing MM with Spell Snare, in fact that's kind of silly.

    Although blue will still be dominant so High Tide is a much better bet than Tendrils.

    Actually I'm expecting the meta to be much more blue than before.
    My point was/is Force of Will, Daze and Mental Misstep compared to Force of Will, Daze and Spell Snare isn't going to lead to an imbalance in matchup % between aggro-control and Tendrils combo. Obviously tho' Spell Snare isn't a direct substitution for Mental Misstep in all decks i.e. NO RUG. doesn't want either Spell Snare, Spell Pierce or Daze in place of Mental Misstep.

    People are acting like Mental Misstep was the glue holding the Tendrils combo match up together, and it's bull shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Final Fortune View Post
    My point was/is Force of Will, Daze and Mental Misstep compared to Force of Will, Daze and Spell Snare isn't going to lead to an imbalance in matchup % between aggro-control and Tendrils combo. Obviously tho' Spell Snare isn't a direct substitution for Mental Misstep in all decks i.e. NO RUG. doesn't want either Spell Snare, Spell Pierce or Daze in place of Mental Misstep.

    People are acting like Mental Misstep was the glue holding the Tendrils combo match up together, and it's bull shit.
    It was - for non-blue, non-black decks.

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    Ah that little mini FoW/Drain in one is now banned. Good riddance.
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