Are you almost done being all butthurt about this and going around to all the threads telling everyone the sky is falling because combo is coming back? It'd be cool if you were almost done.Originally Posted by DragoFireheart
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- All non-Land, non-Creature, non-Burn cards are banned
I'm pretty disappointed that Mental Misstep is banned. I like the card and I felt things were fairly diverse.
Modern is way to swingy with its bannings; they obviously want it to be all creature decks it seems.
I would like modern to start from M10 and up. (Because M10 is really the modern version of magic)
Oh God I just realized that AnT/TES/High Tide/Elves/Zero/etc are COMPLETELY UNSTOPPABLE now, especially for aggro! Misstep completely fixed the bad combo matchup for Zoo and Goblins, and now those decks are just going to be dead in the water again!!
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From the article, it seems they badly want Legacy to represent all colors, but they simply can't do that without crushing every powerful blue card OR unbanning all the powerful cards in the other colors. Even then, blue would need bannings.
With Modern, they should be allowed to experiment in making an Eternal format that is not blue, but I think Legacy would need way to many changes to do the same.
Good thing they banned misstep. Now everyone who couldn't figure out a way to beat 4 cards in every deck can go back to losing to different cards in every deck.
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This post is amazing. I'm ready for some TES and High Tide action, at least until people play CB :(.
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You can unban stuff like Mind Twist but ... the irony is that it would be played in blue control decks. Land Tax likely would meet the same fate, what's better than taxing for 3 then Brainstorming ???
The real problem blue card is Brainstorm ... clearly. Instead of banning misstep I would have liked to see some unbannings and 3-4 months of play.
Unban Black Vise
Unban Earthcraft
Unban Mind Twist
Unban Memory Jar
Unban Land Tax
and let it hit the f'ing fan and see what people can build.
The only issue at that point is the lemming mentality of most players, but there are enough people building decks and testing that things would work itself out.
I don't think the Misstep format had itself figured out yet. Way too soon for the ruling, IMO.
Also, I really, really hate High Tide being playable again.
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conserning the banning of Mental Misstep:
It's good for the format and for MtG. But I'm still disgruntled why they even printed it in the first place. WotC does so much shit and the players have to suffer for it. Although it really was foreseeable that MM will be banned sooner or later, I managed to lose money by this banning. :(
concerning Modern:
It's a brand new format, it will take time till the banned list will stabilize.
Is there a newsletter or something from WotC where I can register to get informed early when banned lists change?
I feel like they shot their own leg with that announcement.
Perhaps MMS is a little far on the powerful side but certainly not more than other cards that are unbanned atm (Bob, SFM, Zenith just to name a few).
Also, what MMS did, it kept decks with important one-drops in check. That applied to Zoo, Elves, Goblins etc as well as to TES/ANT, High Tide and Painterstone.
How any non-blue/black deck's going to interact with the latter three is beyond me.
So much for fixing blue in the meta, looks like I'm not going to put down my Forces in the next several months (whereas I was slowly realizing I don't have to play blue anymore in the former meta).
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I agree. There aren't enough people with the free time and card pool to create and play new decks in such a short period. I had been playing U/b Tezz control with Chalices and a super strong long game and smashing decks with Mental Misstep (and getting run over by Zoo). The card irritated me but should have been given some more time (and unbannings) to work itself out.
I think High Tide will be constrained by cost ... that is until they randomly ban Candelabra or some other cool card that's been around for 15 years.
they can always just put Timespiral back on the list.
I do not think High Tide deck is any more healther to Legacy than the current mono U control and friends.
It just takes too long for the players to do their "math" while the other sits there doing nothing. You probabaly can take a nap before they end up killing you or accidentally fizzles
Can someone rage about the Extended bannings so we can have more angst about non-Legacy formats in the Legacy section? Thanks!
Agreed. Every time I watch a High Tide player go off I think of this:
I wish I could sig that. Still laughing lol.
Maybe I'm out of it right now, but I don't remember some long combo winter before misteps printing. That card was beyond boring to play with and against. WOTC gets +1 from me
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- Why would I be butthurt? I get to play CounterTop again. If anything, aggro players should be butthurt because now combo decks are going to resurge.
- Yep...
I guess I don't understand why some insist on making sure Goblins is a viable deck. Old Theshold lists with Mystic Enforcers are no longer viable. Why would we expect every deck to continue to be viable? Isn't that the very definition of stagnation?
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