[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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[Royal Ass.]

That one is probably rebacked too.

Are you saying that b/c of the corners and the centering? I just don't know how you can be sure of that from seeing a scan on the internet. I have a beta Lotus that I am sure is real, but I would like to know how to spot fakes too. I'm very familiar with beta and alpha cards but haven't seen many collectors editions so it's hard for me to compare.

This lotus has the same left justified centering. Do you think it's fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-BE...item4aaed284ed

[Octopusman]

That one's fake. It was a reback. You can tell by how shiny/bright it is and how it is miscut slightly. Disappointing to see a major retailer selling something like that.

Why?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Lotus-...item3f0e20a658

I'm sure it failed some test (bend?).

It's ripped in half and I don't see the blue glue layer.

[Tha Gunslinga]

This lotus has the same left justified centering. Do you think it's fake?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-BE...item4aaed284ed

Interesting how much more wear there is on the back, and how much less on the front. Interesting how the front is misaligned and the back is not. Almost as if the front and the back were from two separate cards...

[KindGrind]

If I had the card in front of me I couldn't resist bending testing it...

Card just doesn't look right.

Edit: same seller, look at that "beta" (ahem) trop...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220845542285

[Tha Gunslinga]

Real Alpha Trops have Mark Poole as the artist, so that is either fake in some way or trimmed Beta.

[socialite]

Pretty sure that seller has quite a few illegitimate cards for sale. I was looking for a Beta Sol Ring a few months ago and came across his/hers and it just didn't look right to me.

[Royal Ass.]

Interesting how much more wear there is on the back, and how much less on the front. Interesting how the front is misaligned and the back is not. Almost as if the front and the back were from two separate cards...

I was not aware that the front and back of a card always had to line up. Is this true?


The seller tried to sell me that lotus off ebay awhile back. A friend of mine has bought some power and bb duals from him and it seemed to go okay. Presumably they are real as I think my friend should be able to spot a fake. I turned down his offer as he was asking too much and I didn't like the condition and centering of the lotus. I ended up buying a MP condition lotus from SCG that probably could have been graded SP. I had two scans to chose from and the one I got was significantly better than the one I didn't get, which I noticed sold a few days ago. Mine is in very nice condition and I had been watching lotuses on Ebay and other online sites for several months and didn't think I was going to find a much better deal and have the security of buying from a reputable retailer. Decently priced loti seem hard to come by these days.

[dontbiteitholmes]

If you plan on dealing with high dollar cards get a 30x jewelers loupe for maybe $10. Then when you look at a fake card all the little imperfections in printing are magnified 30x. It's also pretty useful for examining the edges.

[Tha Gunslinga]

I was not aware that the front and back of a card always had to line up. Is this true?

Generally they do. There are misprints where the front and back do not line up, but on a piece of Beta power, slightly misaligned horizontally on the front, I would assume rebacking, given that much of the CE/IE power out there is misaligned similarly.

[Royal Ass.]

Why is the price of Ancestral Vision up to $10 on SCG? It's still banned in Modern and sees little Legacy play. Am I missing something?

[jamesh]

Why is the price of Ancestral Vision up to $10 on SCG? It's still banned in Modern and sees little Legacy play. Am I missing something?

yes
it's a strong card that sees play in legacy as a (better) alternative to standstill
also, who cares about what is/isn't currently banned in modern
until that banned list changes, that format is shit

[Tha Gunslinga]

Why is the price of Ancestral Vision up to $10 on SCG? It's still banned in Modern and sees little Legacy play. Am I missing something?

Depressingly enough, my guess is that people are buying them up because they think it works with Snapcaster Mage.

[ramanujan]

I am sure that you are right on that one. My feelings mirror yours. I remember when Candelabras had a similar bump, before high tide, because a few people thought they would combo with karoo lands for infinitie mana.

[KindGrind]

Talking about Candelabra, it had been down to more or less 120$ recently, but the announce of the ban had it shoot back up to 200$+. Too bad I didn't try hard enough to score one for Commander (was outbid twice by a ridiculous dollar in the last 2 weeks or so...)

[Koby]

Investors sold short-term bonds and bought longer-term ones, because they were “trying to buy up something that is going to be in demand, getting in front of the Fed, in essence,”

I read this today, and thought that sounded way too much like MTG speculative activity. I wonder how that plays out in the Bonds market.

[dahcmai]

About the same oddly enough. Largest difference is you don't go to jail for knowing info before other people and making money off it in MTG. Bonds are crap btw. Stick with Silver, you can trust me on that one. If you're wondering why, they finally figured out how to mix an alloy with silver to make it not tarnish. If you're an engineer, you'll know what a big deal that is.

[Onslaught]

Any experts want to offer some opinions about when to cash out on Riptide Labs?

[Onslaught]

Any experts want to offer some opinions about when to cash out on Riptide Labs?

[Pippin]

Any experts want to offer some opinions about when to cash out on Riptide Labs?

You're the one speculating, you tell us that

This topic is mostly bitching about prices and reprints (hence the changed title), not really speculators gathering.