[Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

[Draener]

The main advantage of pyroblast is when you DON'T have LED, but you have infernal tutor. In this case, flusterstorm would sit in your hand, stopping you from casting the tutor, unless of course you wanted to tutor up another flusterstorm.

[KobeBryan]

1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Past in Flames
1 Ad Nauseam
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Burning WIsh
4 Lion's Eye Diamond
4 Lotus Petal
4 Chrome Mox
4 Dark Ritual
4 Rite of Flame
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
4 Duress
4 Flusterstorm
2 Underground Sea
1 Volcanic Island
1 Badlands
1 Island
1 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Bloodstained Mire

What do you think of this sideboard

3 jin gitaxis
3 reanimate
3 careful study
3 animate dead
3 entomb

Is it possible to change up the entire deck to a reanimate deck just to confuse the opponent, post board?

Any other suggestions is welcome.

[stasis]

You bw for what in that sideboard?

Gotta say im negative, but your ide could be possible if worked further on.

[r0ckstAr]

Storm eight, i'm going to play a burning wish, in response i crack LED. Ok, let's see my sideboard... Storm Nine ! I play Careful Study !

I think ANT may be the deck to do these kinds of tricks. In TES you have a number of slots for wish targets, thus it is really hard to change completely the deck with only 8(?) free slots.

[aljiichiban]

What a crazy play...no seriously one extra storm for one red is not a reason to play this card.
Flusterstorm is way more usefull because it hits discard spells like Toughtseize or Hymn to Tourach.

I just think it's funny/don't understand that Bryant says that Flusterstorm is terrible because it doesn't play well with LED while he plays Pyroblast in the board. Only advantage of Pyroblast is to counter a blind Counterbalance, which doesn't happen a lot of time these days.

IMHO, I would proactively wish for PiF instead if I'm facing Decks with Thoughtseize and Hymn and play my artifact mana. Then flashback it later. If they try to bring GY hate, it might be in our advantage because it can dilute their MD.

For me, flusterstorm is like Daze without the alternate mana cost, especially if they only played 1 spell, being thoughtseize and Hymn

[OurSerratedDust]

Divert is better. And we didn't play it for years.

I disagree. Flusterstorm can reliably hit Stifle, Pact of Negation (vs Hivemind) , Duress, Firespout (for EtW), opposing Silences and other stuff like that. Needing to counter multiple spells at once is not unheard of and being a storm deck, we can easily get storm counts greater than two if needed.

[jin]

I disagree. Flusterstorm can reliably hit Stifle, Pact of Negation (vs Hivemind) , Duress, Firespout (for EtW), opposing Silences and other stuff like that. Needing to counter multiple spells at once is not unheard of and being a storm deck, we can easily get storm counts greater than two if needed.

I said that the SB Pyroblasts are no better than the SB Flusterstorms because Flusterstorm hits way more things nowadays

I think replacing Pyroblast for Flusterstorm is interesting if you use Pyroblast purely for defense, but the problem is, most of the time Pyroblast is used to hit CB and Jace2, so I don't think Flusterstorm can fill that role. If you need to replace Flusterstorm with something, it'd be the other protection spells. But like people said, Flusterstorm/Pyroblast are both hard to use as stand alone protection. They are better used to protect other protection spells. That's why 2x Pyroblast makes sense in this deck.

Right now, I'm also at 3x Pyroblast because I'm not sure CB will come back in full force and the 3rd Pyroblast seems more useful than Krosan Grip right now. If CB comes back, then I'll probably play that in place of the 3rd Pyroblast, but Flusterstorm will never take this role for for me.

... (now that CBTop is no longer a viable deck choice and that we see more discard spells like Thoughtseize or Hymn to Tourach). With that said, I still don't understand how can people think Pyroblast is good when Flusterstorm is "terrible".

I do agree, that Hymn to Tourach is a problem (Thoughtseize, not so much).... I think Past in Flames fixes this though...

[Lunarclaw]

Hi all...Bryant cook a question for you ? in the opening post you have updated the base list , and i think also the sideboard options whit every deck , in some matchup you say to side out empty the warrens from the main but there is'nt in the main deck^^tks

obviously the shift defense grid / pyroblast is for the comeback of countertop right ?

i'm trying silent departure in the deathmark spot, when i have some decent testing i post again ^_^see ya

[thefringthing]

Silent Departure is pretty miserable against Stoneforge Mystic, but good against Reanimator dudes, I suppose.

[Tammit67]

Silent Departure is pretty miserable against Stoneforge Mystic, but good against Reanimator dudes, I suppose.

Wait... You board in cards to fight stoneforge mystic?

[jin]

Hi all...Bryant cook a question for you ? in the opening post you have updated the base list , and i think also the sideboard options whit every deck , in some matchup you say to side out empty the warrens from the main but there is'nt in the main deck^^tks

obviously the shift defense grid / pyroblast is for the comeback of countertop right ?

i'm trying silent departure in the deathmark spot, when i have some decent testing i post again ^_^see ya

Empty the Warren used to be main in the place of the second Ad Nauseam.

Silent Departure is pretty miserable against Stoneforge Mystic, but good against Reanimator dudes, I suppose.

Silent Department isn't great because the creature comes back, so you'll have to use it on the combo turn. This means that it'll use more mana. Deathmark ensures that it won't come back for awhile, so you can do it before the combo turn. Bounce is terrible as a sorcery. Bounce is only good at instant speed to do it at the end of an opponent's turn.

I probably won't board in Deathmark against SFM anyway unless I see Ethersworn Cannonist (I hate this guy).

[Gocho]

I disagree. Flusterstorm can reliably hit Stifle, Pact of Negation (vs Hivemind) , Duress, Firespout (for EtW), opposing Silences and other stuff like that. Needing to counter multiple spells at once is not unheard of and being a storm deck, we can easily get storm counts greater than two if needed.

We was talking about hitting Discard spells.
Obviously, Divert can't hit the same targets that Flutterstorms, but vs Hymn and Thoughtseize, is better.

[Lunarclaw]

Tks for all the answers , yes i'm not thinking of use Silent departure against SFM ( if they do me 2 mana Sfm i'm happy ) but against reanimator's creature or do you think is useless?Btw i know that the empty the warrens is the spot of the 2nd ad nauseam,but in the list in the first post and is updated some days ago he play 2 nauseam and zero empty md so i ask that thing ^^

[Deviruchi]

I'll gladly use Pyroblast because V.Clique and Merfolks are a lot more common than Hymn.decs in my metagame. -3 D.Grid +3 Pyro --- that is my starting position for two first post MMS-ban tournaments.

P.S. Please post your results if Flusterstorm were bonkers for you.

[thefringthing]

Wait... You board in cards to fight stoneforge mystic?

Not for Stoneforge Mystic specifically, but I'll wish for Deathmark if I have the spare resources to do so. Letting a Batterskull connect must be avoided if possible.

[OurSerratedDust]

We was talking about hitting Discard spells.
Obviously, Divert can't hit the same targets that Flutterstorms, but vs Hymn and Thoughtseize, is better.

Oh, my bad. Fair enough.

[Tammit67]

Not for Stoneforge Mystic specifically, but I'll wish for Deathmark if I have the spare resources to do so. Letting a Batterskull connect must be avoided if possible.

If my opponent goes t2 mystic, t3 batterskull, there is definitely a window of oppurtunity to kill him. Without pressure, there is no reason why you can't kill him at 24 life. Batterskull isn't relevant.

[Dark Ritual]

Yeah it's pretty easy to deal 24 damage with tendrils. If you only do 22, just wish for grapeshot and kill them with grapeshot. And 24 is taking into account the fact that the opponent hasn't fetched at all when they could have potentially fetched twice and 22 is definitely easy with TES. Batterskull is too slow against this deck especially post MM.

Silent departure is a solid wish target. Although it's almost the same as deathmark it's a little better since it hits any creatures except iona on blue, which we don't care about because we can win without casting any blue cards with ease since all of our combo spells are black and red with only our cantrips and some SB cards being blue.

Also Draener. You aren't sitting with flusterstorm in hand if you don't have LED; you CAN flusterstorm targeting your infernal tutor and then have the copies target the original flusterstorm to negate it so you don't have to pay the 1.

[j_rb]

Yea stoneblade is going to be a nearly auto-win MU for TES, IMO. I only lose to that deck when they get 3 missteps and a force in their opening hand, and even with that I have won through it a time or two... Silent departure seems like a solid sideboard card if you're expecting lots of reanimator wherever you play. I think it would have lots of potential as a sb card if the flashback was a couple less mana.

[thefringthing]

The thing about a Batterskull is that it doesn't just hit you once. If the 4 life is enough to get them out of Tendrils range for a turn, they're going to be 4 life further from Tendrils range next turn. It gets pretty hard to Fifteendrils someone when they're recurring a Vendilion Clique.