In either case, if brainstorm misses an action spell you have to hit a fetchland to have any chance at all passing the turn.Originally Posted by lorddotm
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Just wanted to share. Played at a Local tourney yesterday and finished 3-0-1 with TES(1st)
Round 1: Elfball
G1: I mulled to 5 but his cabal therapy misses. Went off with Ad Nauseam> Tendrils for 22
G2: His Cabal Therapy hits my 3 dark rituals. Then he played surgical and Null Rod. My Diminishing Returns whiffs. He went off his turn and continued to rape my hand and library with Cabal and Surgical. I told my self I'm gonna grapeshot this guy on G3 when I get the chance.
G3: Duresed his surgical and Thoughtseized his Scavenging Ooze. Went off with Ad Naueam on my turn> "GRAPESHOT for 20". I could have made it longer but he wasn't a douche, so I stopped there.
Round 2: Mono Black Discard
G1: Mulled to 5 for the 2nd time. He plays the classic Darkrit>Duress>Hymm.
G2: I played the classic T1 Ad Nauseam>Tendrils for 26
G3: It was my turn to disrupt his hand with Duress and Thoughtseize. Then went off with Ad Nausaem>Past in Flames> Tendrils for 26
Round 3: UW stoneblade
G1: He plays the T2 Stoneforge>batterskull. After I passed my turn and his, I went off with Ad Naus on my next turn after he counters my Orim's.
G2: My Thoughtseize was met by his spell pierce. He played his T2 Stoneforge>batterskull. Then I played my duress for his FOW, then pondered to a second Duress for his Batterskull. Having only Burning wish on my hand and lands as the only cards left on his, I decided to go for ETW(he was down to 16 that point). The goblins went the distance.
Round 4: Tempo Thresh(RUG)
ID(not confident yet that I can beat this deck due to lack of playtesting against this. So I agreed/negotiated to draw)
Got Store Credit and a BYE for a next Major Tourney.
One doubt, Do you think that the hands with a lot of mana producers but without manipulation or tutors are mulligan?
For example : 2 Land, 2 led, 3 dark ritual keep or mulligan ?
Mulligan. If you just don't draw a business spell, you die.
Agree, although besides business, if you are playing against a deck with any form of disruption you are also missing protection. A whole lot has to go right in 2 (maybe 3) draw steps for you to have any shot.
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Only keep the double LED and triple dark rit hand if you're feeling extremely lucky and want to gamble a lot. Because if you don't draw business you straight lose. I know I kept that hand one time although it was 1 land, 3 LED, 3 dark rit's, and I got bailed out by my opponent tapping tarnished citadel at least 2 times for colored mana and him misplaying by not stripping my hand with a pair of therapies when he was able to and I topdecked tendrils for the win. That will rarely happen though as no optimal dredge build runs tarnished citadel with most opting for undiscovered paradise. But you should typically mulligan the all mana hand unless you've already mulled down to 4 or something quite low where the all mana hand can get there if you draw perfectly.
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Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 1w
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier Rare
First Strike
Noncreature spells cost 1 more to cast.
"Thraben is our home and I will not see it fall to this unhallowed horde."
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While this creature isn't the end of TES or combo, it's another obstacle to play around. I'm unsure if it's better than Ethersworn Cannonist or Teeg against us, but it's another option for storm haters. I'm not happy about this printing.
Thank god its Legendary.
I would say Canonist and Teeg is better as they are easier to tutor for.
Unless some form of hater deck becomes viable, or some aggro control deck adopts a love for sphere effects, I can't see this thing even seeing SB use in any current deck. The only decks that I can see remotely wanting it are either Maverick or D&T... and both already have better options available.
It is better than Glowrider I suppose.
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At least it's legendary.... also it's not really better than canonist, they both say, "play about one spell per turn".
Not only am I glad its legendary. I'm glad its white instead pf green. At least opponents can't GSZ for it and it dies to virtues ruin for those that play it.
This hatebear might justify a different bounce split in the sideboard if it becomes popular. Making Echoing Truth cost 3 is pretty irritating.
"I'm willing to imagine a TES where Past in Flames replaces Ill-Gotten Gains entirely, and we just don't play Diminishing Returns." - me, 29/09/2011
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I don't see chalice of the void very often, and about wipe away its more strange to see counterbalance than before.
I think that if the new bear would see a lot of play its not a bad idea to replace echoing truth, moreover white decks has wasteland too and having 3 mana for bouncing Thalia can be hard.
From my point of view the best options for replacing echoing truth are Slaughter Pact, Path to exile and lightning bolt.
That just seems worse than Chain of vapor or another deathmark.
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Really path or bolt? I would run a chain lightning before I ran bolt. I guess it being instant would warrant it's use, but chain of vapor just seems better.
Completely agree, an extra chain would work. Chain being instant also help a bit in the maverick MU for hitting mindcensors.
Excuse me, I didnt remember chain of vapor :)
What are the biggest differences between this deck and ANT? I've been playing ANT for a while now, but just tendrilsing my opponent each game has gotten boring, not to mention that TES looks way prettier foiled out than ANT. Anywho, are the kinds of hands to keep different than with ANT? I understand that TES is supposed to turn 1/2 as opposed to ANTs turn 2/3, does this mean that hands full of cantrips are bad? Also, how many chrome moxen in an opener is too many to keep it (I assume 2 or more), and how aggresively should I be using them (for example, early on to cast cantrips)? Should you hold back land drops if you think your opponent has a waste?
I’m on the draw with: gemstone mine, gemstone mine , city of brass, chrome mox, infernal tutor, ponder, and brainstorm, keep? I said to myself “what the f*ck, I’ll never know if I don’t go for it” and kept. My opponent drops a memnite, mox opal, and ancient den (I know whats coming next), then comes the sfm for batterskull. I draw lotus petal. I need duress so I play a gemstone mine and ponder into duress luckily, shuffle, imprint infernal tutor on mox and duress the batterskull. It’s turn two and opponent top decks another sfm going for another batterskull but it’s in his sb so he grabs cranial plating, drops seat of the synod and passes. I draw brainstorm, drop another mine and brainstorm into: volcanic island, led, and dark ritual putting the volcanic and city of brass back on top. This is when I realize I am screwed without a shuffle effect and probably have no chance so I go for it and brainstorm seeing the volcanic and city of brass I put back along with my saving grace, infernal tutor. Once again I put the volcanic and city back. i proceed to drop the lotus petal and led, then tap the mox playing dark rit so I can cast my naturally hellbent infernal tutor for ad nauseam cracking led for BBB in response. I find AN and sac the petal for B and cast AN. I ad nauseam down to 5 life, stopping in fear of revealing the second AN, revealing: lands, 3 dark rit, 2 rite of flame, lotus petal, 2 led, 2 infernal tutors, and 3 burning wish. I drop the petal and led’s, sac petal for B then play the dark rits floating BBBBBBB. I cast infernal tutor, revealing burning wish, for burning wish cracking one led for BBB and the other for RRR. Now with RRR and nine B in the pool I discard the rest of my hand and cast burning wish for past in flames. I use the remaining R in the pool to cast both rite of flame putting me at 4R and 9B. I cast the past in flames, leaving 3R and 6B in the pool, I flashback the rituals leaving me with 7R and 14B. The storm count is 23 and I’m at 5 life, at this point I have to stop and think about where I going to go with this. I’m contemplating trying ill-gotten gains to up the count but because I haven’t ever used igg I'm not confident about that route. Next I contemplate using tendrils to up the count but I cannot instantly determine the correct math so I abandon that road and just flashback burning wish for grapeshot. I told my opponent that I save the massive grapeshot for douche bag a$$holes, he doesn’t know I am new to the deck and barely have a clue how to play or the fact that I was extremely lucky and he wasn’t playing blue.
How would I have been able to get the storm count higher with IGG and/or splitting the tendrils damage?
Tendrils him, targeting him enough times to leave him with 2 or 1 life, the rest at yourself (for no life change)
Use your new 16-18 life to AdN again, and enjoy
That's what i was thinking but i wasn't sure. thanks. can you flashback the rituals again if you flashback the pif?
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