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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    And... a Time Walk for 5UU. Oh, it has a Miracle Cost of 1U.

    Starting to be a little nervous for SDT/Brainstorm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
    What about something slightly more OP?

    Uno! 5UUU
    Sorcery
    Take an extra turn after this one.
    Miracle 1U
    not bad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Sun View Post
    And... a Time Walk for 5UU. Oh, it has a Miracle Cost of 1U.

    Starting to be a little nervous for SDT/Brainstorm.
    ...was that really necessary, Wizards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacrix View Post
    What about something slightly more OP?

    Uno! 5UUU
    Sorcery
    Take an extra turn after this one.
    Miracle 1U

    Almost nailed it. Except one cheaper and getting exiled.

    Still retarded powerful.

    Edit:
    Demonic Taskmaster
    Creature - Demon
    Flying
    At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature other than Demonic Taskmaster.
    4/3
    Not too shabby.

    Also, another overcosted demon with a ridiculous effect:
    Griselbrand 4bbbb
    Legendary Creature - Demon
    Flying, lifelink
    Pay 7 life: Draw seven cards.
    7/7

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    Wlep. I guess we can say bye to brainstorm. I suppose I should start selling all my legacy stuff now.

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    Is Personal Tutor for new time walk a real thing? In addition to the obvious Brainstorm/SDT/Noxious Revival (if you want to go that deep) shenanigans.
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    I give up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by betterthenandrew View Post
    Is Personal Tutor for new time walk a real thing? In addition to the obvious Brainstorm/SDT/Noxious Revival (if you want to go that deep) shenanigans.
    Revival doesn't work, it gets exiled (as if that would prevent abuse).

    And the Personal Tutor thing sounds scary. Very scary.

    I can't see Temporal Mastery staying unbanned for a long time.

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    How does Griselbrand compare to Jin in reanimator?

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    Temporal Mastery sigh! I hoped they wouldnt print such absurd miracle cards. Barook the revival works when when combined with some kind of selfmill or discard like forbidden alchemy or Thirst for Knowledge.

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    How does Griselbrand compare to Jin in reanimator?
    wow.

    as if this fucking time walk wasn't stupid enough they also made a Jin that can beat face on his own.

    seriously, wotc, fucking stop. I feel like we should just form a league independent of the DCI with house rules banning retarded new sets. And bringing the combat stack back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stall_19 View Post
    How does Griselbrand compare to Jin in reanimator?
    Probably doesn't. Making the opponent have no hand is very oppressive.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    So can you miracle a sorcery on an opponents turn via a cantrip like brainstorm?
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    yes! if they are printing time walks for 2 mana in miracle cost wonder what other mythic miracles will do then.. Balance? Wheel of Furtune? green miracle that cheats to large creatures into play?

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    Presumably it works just like Suspend, where the ability tells you to cast the card even if you normally couldn't.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    Brainstorm aside, this card pretty much guarantees that Mystical Tutor is never coming back.
    The same Surging Chaos on Salvation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boneclub24 View Post
    Probably doesn't. Making the opponent have no hand is very oppressive.
    Well I'm not exactly sure, which is why I asked.

    But for Jin to have the other player empty their hand it needs to survive for a full turn. Lets say Griselbrand survives for a turn, that means you get to attack with a 7/7 flying lifelinker with a full hand and able to draw 7 more any time. How many decks can reasonably come back from that?

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    Huh.

    http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/art...restored/world

    The art on the far right looks remarkably like a Soratami. But how would a being native to Kamigawa get to Innistrad?

    Perhaps this is one of the planeswalkers? She'd like be U/x (or at least, the face looks feminine, but Meloku was male, so...).

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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizso View Post
    yes! if they are printing time walks for 2 mana in miracle cost wonder what other mythic miracles will do then.. Balance? Wheel of Furtune? green miracle that cheats to large creatures into play?
    From Mark Rosewater's Tweets, it looks like the Time Walk was the card that they were most on the border about printing. I don't think any other cards will have a similar power level. Still, fuck.
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    Re: Avacyn Restored Card Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Stall_19 View Post
    Well I'm not exactly sure, which is why I asked.

    But for Jin to have the other player empty their hand it needs to survive for a full turn. Lets say Griselbrand survives for a turn, that means you get to attack with a 7/7 flying lifelinker with a full hand and able to draw 7 more any time. How many decks can reasonably come back from that?
    Well, the other issue is that if you Reanimate it, you won't have much life left to be drawing cards with.

    Just what I predict. Purely speculative and may prove to be completely wrong.
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