Would Temporal Mastery costor
High Tide is pretty tight and I don't think it has any space for other cards just for maybe being one turn faster.Originally Posted by Vacrix
I wonder if an entire deck could be built around Griselbrand -- something kind of like the Bargain decks in Classic that used Soul Spike as a way to chain draws together and finish off the opponent. It'd obviously have to be cheated in with Show and Tell/Reanimation.
goodbye brainstorm :(
Holy crap. As soon as that was spoiled, I went to SCG and bought a playset of NM Personal Tutors. That was approximately 10 hours ago. I started regretting only getting 1 playset last night, but I spent the night at this girl's place, so I was like fuck it, I'll buy another in the morning. They had something like 68 NM ones, 6 MP ones and like 30 or 40 M ones. They are currently sold out. No more Tutors for me :(
2U. The same as an alt-casted FoW costs 3. Miracle is just an alternative casting cost with special conditions, no different from say Massacre, Pulverize or the aforementioned Force of Will.
It would cost
Here we go --
Avacyn_Retarded
4 Underground Sea
3 Island
2 Swamp
4 Polluted Delta
3 Flooded Strand
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 City of Traitors
3 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Brainstorm
2 Ponder
3 Predict
4 Force of Will
4 Thoughtseize
4 Temporal Mastery
4 Show and Tell
4 Gristlebrand
3 Snapcaster Mage
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
I never thought I'd see the day when you could play Timewalk and Necropotence in the same deck. In legacy.
also, how is Temporal Mastery not an auto 4-of in like every blue/power-based Vintage deck? I mean, shit, even if you get stuck with one in hand and don't see your brainstorm or any of your four jaces you have the mana to just go Tap academy derp time walk. Between that, actual time walk and Yawg's will giving you another time walk some kind of Turbofog deck with 4 jace will be real crazy.
Let's all flip out over a bunch of bad cards.
Let's compare something that costs 20 CC to Necropotence.
Let's post a bunch of terrible deck lists and scream for a ban!
Last edited by socialite; 04-09-2012 at 10:37 AM. Reason: Oops wrong card!
Why is people saying Brainstorm will be banned? TW 2.0 doesn't even need Brainstorm for it to work amazingly. Of course it helps, but clearly the strong effect is TW 2.0's, not Brainstorm. One could use, I dunno, something like Lat-Nam's Legacy to put the fatso back if needed.
If you fail to explain the reason behind your choice, technically, it's the wrong choice.
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This thread cracks me up. Chicken Little has nothing on this thread.
Has anyone actually tried building a deck running mastery and ran it against the tier 1 gauntlet?
i would like to think that im overreacting to the card, but it feels like there are going to be many games where you just win (or gain a huge lead) just because you top deck it. especially on turns 4 onwards.
its almost like rivering a gutshot straight draw against a set.
feels unnecessarily swingy.
*just to double check, if i choose to brainstorm and opponent's EOT, and the first card drawn from BS is TM, can i cast it and get the next 2 turns?
Last edited by KZhang; 04-09-2012 at 10:55 AM. Reason: additional question.
It's janky but Necrotic Ooze just got better with Grislebrand.
I am convinced that WotC is "dumbing" the game because of all the stupid posts they come across on MTG-related forums
If there is going to be a convenient way to cast the wanna be time walk while dredging , I'm down. Otherwise GTFO!
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Man, Wizards love fucking with Legacy. They ban cards at random (bye bye Mystical & Survival) and print retarded cards like Mental Misstep, Delver of Secrets, and Snapcaster Mage. Magic sure is "fun."
If it proves to be a problem, they could ban the enablers of course:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Se...dvanced&text=+[look]+[top]
EDIT: you got the ideia
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8 mana Yawgmoth's Bargain with flying and lifelink?
So I can Reanimate/S&T Griselbrand.
Draw a boatload of cards.
Play Doomsday/Insidious Dreams and stack four Time Miracles on top of my deck.
Brainstorm/Top into them and take 5 turns in a row while smashing face with my Bargain Demon.
MaRo is clearly a genius.
I'm sure the EDH crowd will love these cards as well
Needs more goyfs.
Banishing Stroke basically guarantees there will be a controlling Miracle deck featuring blue-white and lots of deck manipulation.
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And when they counter your S&T you will sit topdecking with a deck full of shit...8 mana Yawgmoth's Bargain with flying and lifelink?
So I can Reanimate/S&T Griselbrand.
Draw a boatload of cards.
Play Doomsday/Insidious Dreams and stack four Time Miracles on top of my deck.
Brainstorm/Top into them and take 5 turns in a row while smashing face with my Bargain Demon.
MaRo is clearly a genius.
I'm sure the EDH crowd will love these cards as well
It was just off the top of my head, but I'm sure there is potential. Black had discard to clear the way. Blue has Force. Blue/black Lim-duls-Vault.. It would probably be as good as any other S&T deck.
Needs more goyfs.
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