I don't really like these sideboards. I can understand to cut Blood Moon, did the same now, but not playing red blasts and Leylines is a pretty huge drawback imo.
Progenitus can be raced pretty handily by Maverick if it hits the battlefield after Turn 3. Griselbrand will have a much bigger impact, even if he gets bounced he will get us the combo pieces to Sneak for the win.
I have found Jonathan Hickerson's Nashville-winning list to be the currently perfect one. Darwin played the EXACT same 75 btw.
(for reference: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46501)
I am currently up to 10 cantrips, 2 Intuition. I think lands and cantrips are the most important elements of a good starting hand. Making sure you do not draw multiple creatures is key. I can even imagine going down to 7 creatures and 11 cantrips.
Currently playing: Elves
I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game.
How'd you pull that off? :)Originally Posted by Norm
I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game.
He probably used Chaos Orb and destroyed his foe's board, and then casted his shiny Dragonite. I don't see any other ways.
Let your Dredge 6 be: Narco, Narco, Narco, Bridge, Bridge, Dread Return
While 2 fatties off the double show and tell probably allowed him to win next turn. 1 flusterstorm would have been all it would take to not die next turn.
I feel like I should save it for the tournament report, it was rather intricate.
Additionally, I did not run/cast Flusterstorm
But the deck that Top 8'ed ran the Progenitus sideboard: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46817I don't really like these sideboards. I can understand to cut Blood Moon, did the same now, but not playing red blasts and Leylines is a pretty huge drawback imo.
Progenitus can be raced pretty handily by Maverick if it hits the battlefield after Turn 3. Griselbrand will have a much bigger impact, even if he gets bounced he will get us the combo pieces to Sneak for the win.
I have found Jonathan Hickerson's Nashville-winning list to be the currently perfect one. Darwin played the EXACT same 75 btw.
(for reference: http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=46501)
Could you expand a little bit more upon "I don't really like those sideboards."
I don't think Maverick can race a turn 3 Progen, especially with their equipment coming out. Unless they have a very ideal hand and plow one of their own creatures, I like my chances with a turn 3 Progenitus.
I also thought about Progenitus as tech vs. Maverick.
Decided against it because:
1) Progenitus is still aweful with sneak attack and show & tell (without hate) is still aweful with Emrakul. If you side out Emrakul instead of Griselbrand, Sneak Attack gets even worse.
2) Pithing Needle is awesome hate vs. Maverick and has also applications against other decks which run: liliana, SD.top, Jace and other random stuff like belcher, grindstone,...
Currently playing: Elves
No love for Crater Hellion?
-Matt
At that point you would need 6 mana and 2 Pierce or 2 Daze and 2 mana/2 Islands. Or untapped with uu3+4r and won.I just went 7-2 placing 19th out of 305 in SCG: Worcester. I may write a tournament report but the most interesting game by far was a later round against Hive Mind (his name was Norman too!) where he hard cast Hive Mind, then Show and Tell placing another Hive Mind into play, Pact of the Titan, Pact of Negation...I won that game.
I think both leylines are terrible for this deck. We saw how well LotV worked out against reanimator. Kastle ran that exact 75 because he'd never played the deck before, borrowed it and quite honestly has no clue about legacy, granted his playskill earned him mtg Hall of Fame.
How is pithing needle awesome vs Mav? Those 3 tutorable md Pridemage say otherwise.
You're close, I'll explain because I don't feel as though I'll have the time to write a tournament report:
The game has been going long, I sided in Through the Breachx2 and Red Elemental Blastx3, while siding my Show and Tells out, along with one Preordain. He has a Pithing Needle naming Sneak Attack and I've been developing mana to either pay for pacts or hard cast Emrakul, The Aeons Torn. I'm at 14 or 15 and he's at 13.
After discarding many times, he feels comfortable going for it. He hard-casts Hive Mind, I Intuition in response, it resolves. I grab three Red Elemental Blast, then allow his Hive Mind to resolve.
He then casts Show and Tell
*trigger*
We both put cards down, I reveal Emrakul, The Aeons Torn and he reveals Hive Mind number two.
Pact of the Titan
*Trigger* *Trigger* - Retain priority Pact of Negation targeting his Pact of the Titan *Trigger* *Trigger*
I Red Elemental Blast my own Pact of Negation *Trigger* *Trigger*
He aims both copies at his Pact of Negation
I then Spell Pierce my Pact of The Titan#1 *Trigger* *Trigger*
He aims both copies back at my original, I pay
He then Flusterstorms my Spell Pierce with every copy and makes it quite clear that I don't receive storm (I know this)
I take my two Flusterstorms and aim them at my own Pact of the Titans leaving just a Pact of Negation on my side to pay for (I've got access to 12 mana)
He then moves back to his Show and Tell that's been hanging out on the stack, I tell him it resolves and we both place cards face down:
He reveals Griselbrand, but I reveal Griselbrand as wellNo seven cards into machine gun death for me today, sir!
He's forced to pass the turn, I pay on my upkeep then destroy him with Spaghetti Monster
In hindsight, playing Griselbrand first would likely have been correct. But I live on the dangerous side :)
That wasnt even close to how i imagined it lol!
Played the following sideboard (standard main w/ 2 Intuition 2 Preordain, 8 counters) at our local weekly last night and was very happy with it:
3 Relic of Progenitus
2 Through the Breach
2 Vendilion Clique
3 Red Elemental Blast
2 Echoing Truth
1 Wipe Away
2 Submerge
Thats Almost the same sb 15 I've been running except -1 REB, -2 Submerge, -1 Wipe Away for +3 Blood Moon and +1 Relic. I run a singleton Wipe Away Main. The only thing I changed from a few weeks ago was adding the Cliques. I think 4 pieces of gy-hate is the minimum with Dredge and the fact that our Reanimator match-up sucks, which I can attest to,
and will become more of a presence again. Good thing I'm able to audible and run Reanimator when people start slacking on grave-hate like they have been.
Erm :) I think it's a bit premature, SnT has won...a couple tourneys? It's not anywhere close to where RUG was/is in its heyday, nor maverick. I'll hold on to all my snt's at this point, best of luck philipp, hope you come back!
@ Norm - so, it's a massive mistake for him to play Flusterstorm, as it allows you to counter both of your copies of Pact of the Titan (before he played it, you had 1 copy of PotT and 1 copy of PoN to pay on your upkeep). However, probably didn't matter as you had enough mana to pay for one or both copies and a spaghetti monster in play.
Did you talk to him at all after the match and get his reaction?
Last edited by Water_Wizard; 06-12-2012 at 05:41 PM.
You're right, and I did have the mana to pay for both on my upkeep. I took a few minutes to talk about it with him after the game, he was a little upset but these things happen. Overall, he was a nice guy and a fun opponent to have at the table. He did, however, have purple hair
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