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Well, I was way off.
Land Tax got unbanned? I think I just heard the sounds of millions of Legacy players cry out in tear-pouring joy.
But the joy that exists for no reason, unfortunately. We're not fighting Mana Drains anymore, kids.
-Matt
Maybe so, but it's more of a sentiment than competitive joy. Even if the card is terrible, some people like it.Originally Posted by sdematt
I just grabbed 3 x korean mox diamonds, korean priests, korean monks, chinese plate, and korean armor. I already had korean firestorms. it's time to tax and battle. if you push me i may go after korean guerrillas.
I think any joy you are hearing is from Wizards finally making the realization that most Legacy players reached ~8 years ago when they look the first look at the Legacy banned list and said "Why the fuck is Land Tax on there?"
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Don't disrespect my dojo dude...
Sweep the leg!
What was the original stated rationale for banning Land Tax anyway? It was before they announced things on their site so I assume the explanation is buried in some old copy of The Duelist or something.
Slows down the game.
Similar reason for banning Top in Extended.
BTW, it's funny to see the old poll at the top of the page. Sensei's Top being the #1 vote getter...
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I thought Land Tax was initially banned because it was a card advantage machine(which was tough to justify after Griselbrand), but stayed banned because of the worries of games going over in time.
Any idea where this was stated? I'm trying to figure out exactly what, way back when, Wizards of the Coast stated was the reason (not just why players thought it was banned/wanted it banned). If they even gave one back then.
Here is the official explanation from Bill Stark on Top's ban in Extended. An argument against Land Tax is that it slows the game down by having a player shuffle during every upkeep. I don't expect that Land Tax will see anywhere near as much play as Top did in Extended in 2008. It was probably the correct decision to unban Land Tax.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...mtg/daily/ld/2
Extended
For many readers, the biggest surprise to come out of the recent announcement was the decision to ban Sensei’s Divining Top in Extended. Making the decision to remove a card from an environment completely is never something taken lightly, and this time was no exception. Sensei's Divining Top caught the eye of Organized Play as being a potential problem during the Qualifier season for Pro Tour–Hollywood, but ultimately the decision was to monitor Top’s performance through the season and reconvene on the matter later in the year.
Ultimately Top 8s throughout the season were littered with the one-cost artifact either in conjunction with Counterbalance to lock opponents out of games, Trinket Mage to be found reliably, or (and usually in addition to) Onslaught’s sac-lands to allow players to shuffle away cards they didn’t wish to draw while peeking at a fresh set of three cards. Such a pervasive performance during a single season created a different problem as well: it made tournaments take too much time.
The constant activating of Divining Top bogs games down, which ultimately leads to an increase in the number of matches that go to time and beyond, which in turn leads to tournaments running much longer than they have historically. Furthermore, the Top encourages players to maximize the number of shuffle effects they play in a deck and the constant shuffling, cutting, presenting to an opponent to repeat the process, and then continuation of a turn exacerbated the situation. In the past the DCI has banned such cards on those grounds alone (Shahrazad is a good example of this, with Land Tax and Thawing Glaciers also having been banned for similar reasons) but in conjunction with the Top’s popularity during the last Extended PTQ season, the decision was to ban the card from the format it was harming.
I see more than others do because I know where to look.
OK. We just have to start up a new multi year campaign to free the jelly fish.
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Let me pick up a set, then I'd be down.
It was also banned (Land Tax, I mean) when the formats split from 1.5 to Legacy. I was very sad that Friday. Who was more upset? The gent who JUST bought a set of Drains. He still won't play Legacy on principle that Wizards fucked him
-Matt
Omniscience 7UUU
Enchantment (Mythic Rare)
You may cast nonland cards from your hand without paying their mana costs.
Can we please ban Show and Tell now?
Man laziest design possible really
Does this mean we have to wait for the next B/R update and gotta play at 2 GPs with this shit? Not sure if it is broken or anything, as it requires Show and Tell, Omniscience and Emrakul, wouldnt work with Grisel as good as with SneakAttack..but still I think there are possibilities to break this -even though you can never ever hardcast it...when I think over it...seems pretty weak doesn't it? While having Show and Tell as the only outlet it more like a 3+ card-combo...
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That's not Blightsteel Colossus.
Edit: Moved to the M13 Spoiler thread.
Too bad you sold your show&tells huh phil?
The DCI says Show and Tell is fine so it must be.
But on a more serious note, I fail to see why Tinker is banned while Show and Tell remains legal. What does Tinker put into play that is more devastating than the things that you can put into play via Show and Tell?
Tinker tutors for the card Show&Tell requires you to already have the card in hand.
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