Instead of the Thoughtseize in the Sideboard, why not play Cabal Therapy?
If you are wishing for protection, you want to make damn sure you hitOriginally Posted by TBryant23
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Trust me, I would rather play Cabal Therapy due to Japanese Foil Thoughtseizes being a bajillion dollars. But Cabal Therapy sucks. Seriously.
I don't own a pimp Thoughtseize (I only have a Russian) or Xantid Swarms (S-Chinese, but I'm looking into a different language foreign foil). It's driving me insane.
Well if you're playing the Gitaxian Probe version of the deck, it seems like Therapy would be better simply to Probe them, see something like brainstorm, 2x fow, take brainstorm, wish for therapy and get both fows. Maybe it's a Christmas land scenario, but it could happen pretty frequently I imagine.
I feel your pain, I'm just missing a thoughtseize pimped from my deck too. For those wondering, foils have much more functionality than non-foils and you will win games because of them.
Ah yes, with all two Probes. Highly likely.
Truth bomb.
I dug through the thread and did not see an answer in the few pages that followed this question, so I apologize if it was answered later:
"Since people are trying out Modern and WOTC has said they’re going to be re-printing stuff for modern, what is the best manabase without the original duals?
Is it rainbow lands and darkslick shores? Darkslick Shores and fetches for basics to make the brainstorms and ponders best?* Or a direct port of the Bryant Cox Manabase with RAV duals?
*
I went with:
4 Scalding Tarn
2 Watery Grave
1 Steam Vent
4 Gemstone Mine
2 City of Brass"
Would the combination of 2 Watery Graves+Steam Vents be best? Or would some combination of additional rainbow lands be best (despite the lack of synergy with brainstorm shuffling away extras)?
Ive been down the rav duals road with other decks although I only ever used 1 max and it still hurt. I would recommend just printing some proxies selling those rav duals and saving for seas, even [heavily] played ones. I effing love my seas and you will too.
Edit- Bryant Im curious what you think of dread of night? I have read your most excellent primer and I realize IoK is more versatile, so perhaps its just that the application of dread is simply to narrow?
For me at my current TES play level thalia and friends are some of if not the most problematic forms of hate I have encountered and proactive discard doesnt always answer a topdecked hatebear where a 1cc continuous wrath would. Anyway just looking for some insight into possibly running 3 DoN plus a wishable removal/wincon (grapeshot) as opposed to IoK and deathmark.
Apparently it's tough to spell my name correctly even when it's everywhere in this thread and the post above...
Anyway, Inquisition being more versatile is the big reason that it gets the nod over Dread of Night. It could also be that while Dread of Night takes care of Thalia. It doesn't answer Green Sun Zenith for Gaddock Teeg. Not to mention Maverick leaves in Quasli Pridemage against us making Enchantment answers worse.
I'd have a longer post but I'm at work on my phone. I apologize for typos/awkward wording.
i was thinking about DoN too... it's true that we can't kill teeg with ONLY 1 DoN (2 DoN can do it anyway) but we can at least bounce teeg easier than thalia. I think that the only problem with the card is what we need to remove from the sideboard.
Storm Hard, the Bryant Cox Story...
Thats what I thought but the thought of 2 DoN at once is pretty tempting.Anyway, Inquisition being more versatile is the big reason that it gets the nod over Dread of Night. It could also be that while Dread of Night takes care of Thalia. It doesn't answer Green Sun Zenith for Gaddock Teeg. Not to mention Maverick leaves in Quasli Pridemage against us making Enchantment answers worse.
Also this made me Lolz
Storm Hard, the Bryant Cox Story...
I went 4-2-2 this weekend. I saw merfolk, RUG, maverick, boros, 2x stone-blade, and two mirror matches: both losses were to stone-blade... IoK and EtW really shined, though. IoK pretty much went in against everything, which is handy when you combo turn one on the play. Empty the Warrens single handedly beat fish-people, maverick, and one of the two mirror matches. But, it did fall short against stone-blade... I know, it's generally a bad idea to EtW against a deck with Batterskull, but it was turn two and he just played Stoneforge into Jitte. I could either BW into DR with no mana floating and no silence, or shit out 14 dudes. I chose the dudes. And of course, he had the Batterskull in hand... It was a fun tourney either way, but it would be nice to win something come next time...
Matthew
Most of the time, a Stoneforge Mystic searching for a Jitte means that he already has the Batterskull in hand, unless you're playing Elves or something.
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I'm contemplating cutting Pif or Grapeshot for the third IoK... After seeing merfolk, I'm back on board with Bryant's side. But, IoK was such an all-star; I can't get myself to just run two copies. It goes in against fish-people, stoneforge, maverick, and pretty much everything else. I haven't used PiF in centuries and I've literally played Grapeshot once, where EtW could have been used anyways. PiF is nifty when you go all in and get blown out. BW-PiF-do it all again (or just flashback). So I think I'm leaning towards cutting Grapeshot...
Why do you need an IoK with the Thoughtseize in the sideboard? Just board the Thoughtseize as you would the rest of the Inquisitions. Not to mention, why does IoK matter against Merfolk? I would be bringing in the two Xantids.
Yeah, definitely concur with this statement. Xantid swarm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Merfolk. It's not even funny, I remember when merfolk was the best deck xantid swarm was my best friend. They literally cannot beat a resolved xantid, it's literally GG's against them when you can resolve xantid.
IoK doesn't seem to be what I want to be doing against merfolk. Taking creatures and such usually doesn't matter against them, as they pack a lot of threats. It only matters if they kept a threat light hand, at which point we have all day against them to set up.
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Also, the best way to improve the merfolk matchup is to test the shit out of it. Honestly, it's pretty easy once you figure out that they have only 8 cards that matter if you're patient in wasteland and force of will. They usually can't clock you to the point that their soft permission matters. That's also why IOK isn't great against them, it doesn't grab either waste or force.
Grapeshot is crucial for this matchup however; in my experience, most merfolk players are douchebags and storm 60 is entirely necessary.
If you aren't using IoK to discard Hate Bears and you're looking for a SB card between IoK and Xantid Swarm that's pretty good vs Merfolk but not completely dead vs RUG I think you're better off just SBing more Orim's Chant/Silence in the board. Xantid Swarm is good vs. Merfolk but I don't think it's as awesome as you make it out to be, you can still run into 3xDismember.
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