well I have not yet tested it, I just thought it up and put it on paper. I did forget all about the fact that sword of body and mind would fall off when painter's servant is on the field, therefore I would have to say I like sword of light and shadow or a 2nd jitte.Originally Posted by Kuma
I could still use mother of runes to make my beater unblockable even when facing creatures with a colorless color Identity such as Emrakul.
if I was to run sword of light and shadow in creates shenanigans with peacekeeper.
Seems like unnecessary jank.
Tom? Is that you? I thought you were going to go work on DnD?
Way too many cards to set up. You need enlightened tutor in the main, then a painters servant, then you need to look for your hate bear with the gsz.
thanx for the input, and I will have to agree with you. It did look interesting on paper though lol
Sure, lets start off with lists. Bitches love lists.
Total: 61
1 Dryad Arbor
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Mother of Runes
1 Sylvan Safekeeper
4 Thalia, Gaurdian of Thrabajsnkajsbea
3 Scavenging Ooze
2 Qasali Pridemage
1 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Fauna Shaman
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Linvala, Keeper of Shhhhhh
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Sword of Light and Snacks
2 Sylvan Library
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Savannah (Beta of course)
4 Windswepth Heath
1 Green fetchland
2 Forest
1 Plains
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Karakas
1 Gaea's Cradle
1 Maze of Ith
4 Wasteland
Sideboard
2 Path to Exile
2 Gut Shot
2 Armageddon
1 Umezawa's Jitte
1 Life from the Loam
1 Crop Rotation
1 Karakas
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Phyrexian Revoker
1 Spike Feeder
Nothing in the maindeck felt weak. Cavern of Souls once helped me beat Blue, then helped me to lose against Dredge where I needed to activate Ooze. Gaea's Cradle was never instrumental in a blow out, but also never hurt when I opened it up in my starting hand.
Sideboard...
Oblivion Ring was hardly used, as I ended up playing against relatively fair decks. Spike Feeder was a hedge against the always ever present Burn decks, but double duty against a slow Dredge draw. Armageddon was a blast playing against AJ Sacher, but I never needed it against other decks.
My two losses were Dredge piloted by Joseph Moreno (got Top 8), and Goblins piloted by Phimus Pan, also in the Top 8. I got a grant total of 4 turns against Dredge the entire match, and I mulliganed to 5 on the play against Goblins in game 3. I drew in the last round to get Top 32 for prizes, then went outside to smoke a spliff.
Along the way I beat:
Sneak Show
Delver
Delver
Reanimator (only lost 3 life the whole match, all to my own fetches)
Didn't feel like I was underpowered in any matchup, but the deck is still at the mercy of its topdecks.
Thanks for the update man! Just got a few questions: Do you think it would be feasable to swap a Stoneforge Mystic or possibly a thrid pridemage for the third ooze, or do you feel three is paramount? Also, Did the sword of l and s do that much work... Seems like it could get kinda over priced with a thalia online; do you think two jitte would have been slightly more beneficial? Great game on video btw! Do you think you would move linvala to the side, or do you think she pulls her weight in the main? Finally, do you think having three fairy m. in board would have helped your dredge matchups at all?
In order,
1. Sure, SFM is played only because I want to access SoLS. If you don't run that equipment, you can cut it. The 3rd Ooze or 3rd Pridemage are interchangeable too. I anticipated a lot of RUG and Reanimator, both of which are hurt by a reliable Ooze early.
2. SoLS did little to no work. Jitte is still the best piece of equipment. Having a second copy would have helped in situations where it got discarded/destroyed, but that didn't matter too much.
3. Linvala is a good hedge against Grislebrand, the mirror, and Elves. The latter has been picking up recently, and Maverick is already weak to the strategy. It doesn't hurt to have it maindeck. Blocking Delvers/Cliques also helps.
4. Absolutely. My sideboard changed dramatically in the hour before the tournament. Had I expected there to be so much Dredge I would not have cut Tormod's Crypt and could have considered Macabres too. I was not prepared for Dredge with this sideboard.
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Also went to SCG Vegas this weekend. Played the same deck as the one from GP Atlanta, except I cut 1 Faerie Macabre for 1 Sylvan Safekeeper. I end up running into lots of combos that day. The end of the day, I was 4-4.
Round 1- TES (2-0)
Round 2- RUG (1-2)
Round 3- TES (1-2)
Round 4- High Tide (2-1)
Round 5- Elves (1-2)
Round 6- High Tide (1-2)
Round 7- Aggro Loam (2-1)
Round 8- Free win, the guy never showed up.....
Wished I had a pair of Ethersworn Cannonist in there somewhere.
Also Gaddock Teeg should be in the MD since so many of us SoCal guys in that event.
I also went to Las Vegas. I had been planning to play High Tide, but after going 1-3 in the Legacy challenge I changed my mind. I had a partially built Maverick list laying around and decided to give it a shot. First time playing Maverick in a tournament, sorry but I didn't take any notes at all. Ended up 6-2 and will likely play Maverick again.
Round 1: Merfolk 2-0
Round 2: Affinity 2-0
Round 3: UR delver 1-2 (Made a huge misplay in game 3. Congrats to Cory Engel on making 9th place.)
Round 4: Rug Delver 0-2 (Out of top 8 Already. $#@! Congrats to Galan Falakfarsa on his top 8.)
Round 5: Affinity 2-0
Round 6: PT Junk 2-0
Round 7: Rug Delver 2-0 (I think this may be 2-1, can't remember. Will find my life pad and update.)
Round 8: Merfolk 2-1
Link to my list.
I didn't have a lot of the cards I would have liked when putting the deck together. Hence the maindeck PtE(instead of StP #4, lack of ethersworn cannonists, and actual graveyard hate in the board. Although, the Manriki-Gusari was amazing versus cranial plating and merfolk Jitte's all day. I guess I just lucked out and dodged all of the reanimator and dredge.
I am a big fan of the Loyal Retainers/ Elesh Combo because my meta has a lot of Maverick and some Elves. Now the new popular deck
is U/W Miracle Top.
So how would you do your list?
I'm still running Loyal Retainers/Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, but I've moved it to the sideboard. People don't think about it, but you don't have to board in both pieces to get value. I board in Loyal Retainers but not Elesh Norn vs U/W Miracles in case they counter my Gaddock Teeg. I've also boarded in Elesh Norn without Loyal Retainers. It's not hard to cast Elesh Norn with Knight of the Reliquary/Gaea's Cradle.
The deck should probably be running more than one Fauna Shaman in any case. Fauna Shaman isn't a bad draw in multiples because you can use the extra copies to activate the one on the battlefield, and ensuring you have one makes the deck play so much better.
I'm not a fan of Green Sun's Zenithing for a Fauna Shaman. I'd rather naturally draw the Fauna Shaman and turn all my GSZs into Knights. It's also better to cast Fauna Shaman, because then you can use GSZ to get Sylvan Safekeeper/Scryb Ranger to protect/activate multiple times.
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Here is a list I'm working on, unfortunately their are no big legacy tournaments in my area so that I could present some results. Overall I'm happy with what I got so far with playtesting.
4-Mother of Runes
3-Noble Hierarch
1-Birds of Paradise
1-Quirion Ranger
1-Sylvan Safekeeper
3-Fauna Shaman
2-Qasali Pridemage
3-Thalia
1-Caddock Teeg
1-Scavenging Ooze
1-Scryb Ranger
1-Loyal Retainers
1-Elesh Norn
4-Knight of the Reliquary
4-Green Sun's Zenith
4-Swords to Plowshares
2-Jitte
3-Savannah
1-Tropical Island
4-Wasteland
2-Karakas
1-Maze of Ith
4-Windswept Heath
1-Wooded Foothils
1-Verdant Catacomb
1-Dryad Arbor
1-Horizon Canopy
1-Gaea's Cradle
2-Forest
1-Plains
SB
depends but I usually keep
4-Faerie Macabre
1-Bojuga Bog
4-Spell Pierce
1-Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Back to the basics:
Why do u guys play teeg in ur 75's?
I think teeg's performance was kinda underwhelming in the last tournament i participiated in. Ofc I'd move him to the sb. And ofc I see the point that u want to have 2 teegs against u/w miracle and perhaps against storm/engineered/wog/etc ... but u usually want teeg postboard and not preboard, do u?
He is ridicoulus against Blade if you can protect him, he is good against BUG and awesome against UW Miracles, where Thalia is kind of lackluster. I still like him in place of Thalia #4 because of the flexibel use and randomly shutting off key strategies as Natural Orer or the whole Storm deck.
If your Metagame is all Maverick and RUG an Goblins you obviously don't need him.
Against control and combo, Teeg is pretty amazing. Think about UW - if you get Teeg out with a SoLS on him, they pretty much have no answers to that.
Obviously against Storm combo, he's the best hate bear.
Even post board against RUG, he's pretty good since he stops their Submerges.
Actually, Thalia is the hate bear that will put them in the dust. Storm combo, esp TES, will have to spend the next 2-3 turns looking for hate cards to answer your Thalia and that gives you more than enough time to put the beats down for their life total to go low enough so that they cannot Ad Nauseam. Their only option will be EtW and that is if they can actually kill the Thalia. In my experience the Maverick vs. Black Storm Combo is usually decided on turn 2-3. If a hate bear lands usually the Maverick player can win, especially with a MoM on board to protect it. Trust me I played TES for over a year, find the Thalia for that match up not the Teeg.
You have 5 ways to get Teeg into play (4 GSZ, 1 Teeg). Teeg being green and thus tutorable via GSZ and easier to get out than Thalia makes him better.
TES & AnT have a real tough time winning under a Teeg (since they can't cast any of their win conditions or engines) other than possibly a Grapeshot kill.
Teeg also doesn't die to Dread of Night, which was played as a 4-of by the GP Ghent winning decklist.
Really, either one protected by Mom will likely buy you enough time to get them. You just have more virtual copies of Teeg than you do Thalia.
Since I know my local meta and I know that there are just 3-4 storm combo decks (50 players in total) I'm going to move the md teeg to the sb.
If there's UW control in your area, I'd also keep the Teeg main. Shutting off Terminus / Entreat / Jace are pretty big, imo.
As a UW Miracle player, I can tell you that the only card that I care about in the Maverick matchup is Teeg (maybe Sylvan Library too). All of your other creatures can meet a swift demise in any number of ways, but Teeg literally prevents me from playing Magic until I somehow assemble 2-3x StP and/or 2-3x Snapcaster + StP (active Mom is crazy protection). When my Maverick opponent has an active Mom on board, he GSZs, and doesn't fetch Teeg, I pretty much feel invincible.
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