[Deck] Nic Fit (GBx Explorer Zenith Control)

[Claymore]

@Qweerios

I've been looking to see how close I am to BUG Fit and am surprisingly close...but mostly because, when using your list as a quick reference, you dropped Jace. Any particular reason?

[bruizar]

@Star Scream,

Ya, that's why it's in nearly all of my Gifts piles. Great synergy with Wasteland, fetches, Gifts, Volrath Tower combo, Liliana, and Top.

I'm not sure if you already said so in the thread, but could you tell me what your gifts piles are? I am still having troubles to understand how your Gifts Ungiven piles work and what interactions there are. My impression is that there are no insta-win piles in your gifts list, only packages that work for you in certain situations. I would like to know if maybe I'm missing some interactions. Could you list them out please?

Thanks

[Arianrhod]

I know he did say them somewhere back a few pages, and I'm pretty sure there are no instawin piles in legacy in general. This isn't vintage where we can go Vault-Key-Regrowth-Will =( The best we could do would probably be something like Thopter/Sword or Hexdepths, which are both equally terrible in Nic Fit for obvious reasons.

Also, I'm going to test out an Eladrami's Call in my floater spot today, over the 4th Green Sun. I'll hopefully find out just how good it is to actually be able to tutor for Rector and Baneslayer =.=;; Stupid white creatures being good and stuff lol

[Claymore]

I used to use Garruk almost solely as a Rector tutor so it should go well, lol.

Speaking of, I might play in a more aggro meta (goblins, maverick, rug, merfolk) so I may just bring him back...

[bruizar]

Eladamri's Call into Gilded Drake seems like a reasonable surprise against SnT. Might win you a game or 2 against an unsuspecting player. (He can just go for Sneak Attack / Omniscience, but not if he doesn't know you play E.Call into Drake)

[HoneyT]

I'm 100% aware that the following decklist is not viable, however It's sweet and I thought I'd give the good fellows on here some entertainment. I present to you:

Battle of Fits!

Enjoy!

Battle of Fits:

// Deck: Battle of Fits (248)

// Lands
4 Bayou
1 Bojuka Bog
4 City of Brass
1 Creeping Tar Pit
1 Dryad Arbor
6 Forest
4 Ghost Quarter
6 Island
4 Karakas
4 Marsh Flats
1 Maze of Ith
4 Misty Rainforest
4 Phyrexian Tower
4 Plains
4 Polluted Delta
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Savannah
4 Scrubland
5 Swamp
2 Treetop Village
4 Tropical Island
4 Tundra
4 Underground Sea
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Volrath's Stronghold
4 Wasteland
4 Windswept Heath

// Creatures
4 Academy Rector
1 Acidic Slime
4 Baleful Strix
4 Coiling Oracle
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
4 Eternal Witness
4 Fauna Shaman
2 Grave Titan
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
4 Knight of the Reliquary
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Phantasmal Image
2 Primeval Titan
1 Progenitus
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Reveillark
1 Rune-Scarred Demon
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Silklash Spider
1 Snapcaster Mage
2 Sun Titan
1 Terastodon
3 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Trinket Mage
1 Trygon Predator
1 Vendilion Clique
4 Veteran Explorer
1 Wickerbough Elder
1 Wood Elves
1 Woodfall Primus

// Spells
4 Battle of Wits
4 Birthing Pod
4 Brainstorm
4 Cabal Therapy
1 Damnation
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Fact or Fiction
1 Faith's Fetters
3 Garruk Relentless
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Green Sun's Zenith
4 Hymn to Tourach
4 Innocent Blood
4 Intuition
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Karn Liberated
1 Life from the Loam
3 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Natural Order
4 Pernicious Deed
4 Recurring Nightmare
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Show and Tell
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Thoughtseize
1 Unburial Rites
3 Vindicate
1 Wrath of God


No sideboard yet. Competitive? Probably not. Fun as hell? Definitely!

[Alexeezay]

needs fierce empath, wall of blossoms, entomber exarch (for pod), hornet queen for giggles & 4 pulse/vindicate :DD looks awesome lol
probably also moat/baneslayer and phyrexian arena haha

Trying to be serious about a battle of wits is hard. :DD

[Qweerios]

I got 4th at a small tournament today, leaving with some store credits. My BuG Fit list is the same so I won't repost it.

2-0 UR Delver
0-2 Homebrew Painter Stone
2-0 Maverick
2-1 Sneak Show

Lost top4 to the Homebrew Painter (with a GY combo involving LED + Auriok Salvagers, and Isochron/Orims which I scooped to twice on turn 2) 0-2 again, and he took first place beating Reanimator.

Overall, I was really glad to utterly destroy UR Delver with my Ooze/Finks/Tusk package. 4 Deeds didn't give Maverick a any rest (despite 2 Sylvan Libraries), and Sneak Show was grinded out and destroyed G2 by TS/Negate/Extirpate and beat down by Witnesses and Prime Titan.

@Claymore,

I dropped Jace because 2UU stretches the manabase too much. I only play 2 Oracles and 2 Gifts as far as blue goes, and that's honestly all I need. Sometimes, my opponents don't even know I play blue because I don't have a single blue land in play the entire game.

@Bruizar,

Gifts piles are never the same. I guess if you wanted to play solitaire you could always go for Volrath/Tower/LftL/Grave Titan or Volrath/Witness/GSZ/Grave Titan, but it is never like that. Today, I did the following piles:

Volrath/Tower/LftL/Thragtusk against UR Delver while I was holding a Witness;
Volrath/Shriekmaw/Vapors/Witness against Maverick while I had Tower in play and LftL in my GY;

..and thats about it. Sneak Show countered my Gifts and the Painter Stone games didnt last very long as I mostly scooped to fast Isochron/Orim's either on turn2 or ripped off the top after my TS/Negates.

[Arianrhod]

More content later....tired at the moment. Took top 8 at a local event today (played Rector) for some credit. Lost in 3 to ANT in the semis....he nut drew the fuck out of me g3.

[Megadeus]

In a PFire build would SB 4th Grove of the Burnwillows and PFire be good? I have been thinking about just running that as my board for fair decks and tribal rather than relying on like engineered plague or virtues ruin. A lot of the time getting grove and PFire online just wrecks them

[Cire_dk]

Played my Rector Nic Fit deck for the first time in a small tournament in Rotterdam. (40 people)
@Arianrhod : you warned me the beginning would be hard, You were right about that

I did not do very well. 1-4-1 That includes one bye.

A very short report:

ANT:
On the draw I play therapy, he brainstorms, I call LED to his surprise and took 2 out of his hand. Nice. After that he goes of on turn 4. Game 2; board in disruption but he goes of turn 3. Even for an experienced player this would have been a bad match up.
0-2
0-1-0

RUG:
Game 1 he has two mongoose (mongeese? ;-) ) and stifles all my attempts to get land, counters deeds and goes for the win
Game 2 Turn 2 he has 2 delvers and lots of counters so no chance.
This player makes the final and beats 2 nic fit decks to get there.

0-2
0-2-0

LANDS:
This is such a boring game. I almost fall asleep. He does not find his wincon so I see him shuffle lands for 50 minutes and 5 extra turns. Draw.

0-0
0-2-1

Bye
1-2-1

Pox with Dark Depths.
I do not manage any control so loose quickly to a 20/20 flyer

0-2
1-3-1

Hate Bears/Stax?
He gets a lot of cards in play which prevent me to get a deed in action. I loose twice without being able to do anything.

0-2
1-4-1

Pros:
The deck is great fun to play so I will certainly work hard to get the hang of it.
I learned a lot
2 teammates (Viridia and Chimera) made top 8 with a BUG still list.

Cons:
The match ups were not the best ones to try out what Nic Fit does best
It was very very hot in Rotterdam (about 35 celcius)

[Megadeus]

That's quite a diverse meta. That's rough about the RUG game. Those are the Only hands that beat us. I never realized how good stifle is against us either. I just found out wednesday

[HoneyT]

@Megadeus

I wouldn't play another Grove in the board unless you're playing Living Wish. I would much rather board in an "oh shit" button like the 4th Deed or a Damnation. It's way more high impact than boarding in a land against the fast swarm decks.

@Qweerios

Congrats man! Are you satisfied with where your BUG list is at then? Or are there more adjustments to be made? It looks freaking sick.

@Alexeezay

Haha you're right! When you're scrabbling up a 200+ card decklist it's easy to overlook some obvious choices! Good eye!! Now we just need someone to actually try it out O.o

[CRich3]

I played in a tournament today and did horrible. I dropped after the first round because I got a bye the second. and their was only 8.

G1 vs Goblins

I mull down to 6 and keep a hand I thought was perfect. Verdant Catacombs, Forest, Cabal Therapy, Veteran Explorer, Grave Titan, Birthing Pod. I play turn 1 Therapy naming Swords to plowshares, he reveals goblins. He plays land pass. I draw Swords to plowhsares, play Veteran Explorer, flashback cabal therapy getting rid of 2 Piledrivers and playing Birthing pod. Im at 4 lands and never draw another land the rest of the game. My hand when I died was Sun Titan, Grave Titan, Thragtusk, Sigarda. I drew all my big creatures and played 3 Swords to Plowshares.

G2

I mull to 6 again and keep another good hand. Verdant, Explorer, Phyrexian Tower, Pernicious Deed, Academy Rector, Scrubland. I Play Verdant getting bayou playing Explorer turn 1 pass. He plays land, then I play phyrexian tower sacing Explorer and casting Deed. He plays War Marshal, then I draw a land play Rector and plains pass. He plays another war marshal and pass. I eventually get Curse of Death Hold on him and deed him twice. I had 11 lands in play and never drew another creature or green sun's all game.

Today just wasnt my day.

[Qweerios]

@HoneyT,

I don't have any tweaks I wish to make atm except for Vapors in the SB that I wish was a Damnation, but it's really no big deal. With every passing week, my results keep on showing me how solid the core of Nic Fit really is against fair decks. Increasing my Deed count to 4 has been a decision I have yet to regret.

Also, seeing as I have no reactive answers to Scepter/Chant, I was thinking of including a pair of Krosan Grips in my SB. However, I think that the occurence of this abomination is too scarce to warrant the inclusion of Kgrips in the SB.

[Megadeus]

I'm running Consume the Meek as my replacement for damnation. Not quite as good against SnT but I play edicts and lilys. It's good against everything except random 4 drop goblins

[jbone2016]

More content later....tired at the moment. Took top 8 at a local event today (played Rector) for some credit. Lost in 3 to ANT in the semis....he nut drew the fuck out of me g3.

Nice. I went 0-4 on Saturday. Boo.

Round 1: Junk aka Dark Horizons
Game 1: Very long game where I deed three times but still die to a bob with a jitte.
Game 2: Goes to time and I scoop.

Round 2: dark horizons again. vs Ian Ellis
Game 1: I never can land a board wipe and his Knight and Bob kills me.
Game 2: My 2 explorer hold him at bay for a while but overhelms me with creatures and a Maze.

Round 3: Lands
Game 1: He lands an early exploration and a cruicble while I never get to four mana before he can ghost quarter me 3 times a turn.
Game 2: He gets a thalia and port out and I get land screwed.

Round 4: Belcher
Game 1: He turn ones me. Yuck.
Game 2: A therapy naming rite of flame and hit. I flashback therapy on turn 2 or 3 and hit 2 belchers. I rector into a leyline and scoops (knowing aI have a plague in my hand)
Game 3: I keep with a leyline and a explorer but no wipe. 14 goblins on his turn. I don't rip a wipe and lose.


How do we win the lands matchup? I don't think I beat it yet.
Belcher? Seem to be luck.
I tried a pendlehaven instead of Treetop this time. Wasn't much better.
Deed x4 over Lilana/green sun's or a eldarmi's call?

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Round 3: Lands
How do we win the lands matchup? I don't think I beat it yet.

You can't actually win. Fact.

[Qweerios]

It's kinda funny how I never lost to Lands with Nic Fit? I find that once I land an Ooze and keep them off Crucible, the deck doesn't do much. Post board is even easier with Extirpate and Negate. They don't exactly have a clock and if you can keep them off Explosives/Ruins, they really don't have any ways to interact. Waste/Loam is also very good at poping Chasm so Thrun can get through...

[PollePotDK]

Kokusho + Recurring Nightmare and/or Faith's Fetter on Academy Ruins at a time where all or key arrifacts are in graveyard.

Lands cant deal with Kokusho's 5 life loss. Doesnt target and isnt damage (Glacial Chasm is dead)