Thanks, I may go to Jupiter Games tomorrow with his list. I was sold on Ubr Ant for awhile but that deck seems to durdle around more than my liking. I have tested and found out Dread of Night is not as good against Maverick then winning first or second turn. I was considering cutting one probe for a 4th fetch. Thoughts?
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the land count is what really got me. I know Bryant has this deck on mental lock. Meaning he knows the right numbers. For a low-middle T.E.S. pilot I feel a little more assurance with cutting a probe for a land. Is empty still worth it in the main over tendrills?
The main deck empty allows for you to use the drawn kill. so against rug you can just kill them with it instead of it being a mulligan. the probes all help with this as you don't have to go for ad nause.
Now an Infernal Tutor with 4 floating is a turn one. It just makes the deck a whole turn faster which is sometimes enough.
I still may switch the probe for a fetch.
It also doesn't deal with Leyline of Sanctity. This is less of an issue with Empty maindeck over Tendrils, but Leyline does still screw up your Probes, Duresses, etc.Abrupt Decay's only disadvantage to e. truth is that it can't bounce multiple chalices or duplicate hate permanents and e. truth is castable off of all the lands in the deck.
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So should I cut a probe for a land?
Bryant's stock list it is. Just got two Karakas for 120 so I'm ready.
Bryant, how do you feel about Therapy main over Duress? I've been testing it to great success. It opens a board spot, and it's crazy insane with Empty the Warrens.
I had the pleasure of playing against Lambert101 this weekend, I had lost my round one, then had to play against him round two. I was on Maverick, he was playing T.E.S. if he hadn't misplayed against me he probably would have won.
I'm still thinking Abrupt Decay is better than Echoing Truth despite the fact that it doesn't hit Leyline or Lodestone. Has anyone done testing with this card yet?
Quick recap from Jupiter. Went 2-x. Haven't played legacy since May. Overall list was would. MVP was cabal therapy. Board plans were amazing and decay is something that should be strongly considered.
I wrote a long post, then I came into the conclusion that it's too complicated to decide whether Decay is worth running over Echoing Truth or not without test results, so I deleted the worthless content.
Abrupt Decay will see play in some decks and that will work in our favor, that much is pretty safe to say.
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I've been doing a bit of testing, and it seems that you want the 13th land back in to hit the color requirements. That could have just been the small number of games I played, but I did have a bit of difficulty casting it, especially if you naturally draw the volcanic. I have not, however, done any testing against lodestone golem or leyline, they don't seem that important to prepare for.
Question regarding dropping Tendrils from the maindeck in favor of EtW:
If one plays more often than not against decks that win in a quick manner, would swapping ToA for EtW be the thing to do? Just trying to understand the thought process behind both lines of play.
Empty won me almost all of my games at Juipter this weekend. The only time where I wanted Tendrils was against Miracles, Stoneblade, and Nic Fit. Most decks can't deal with an empty for 8-12 turns 1-2.
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