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    Thanks, I may go to Jupiter Games tomorrow with his list. I was sold on Ubr Ant for awhile but that deck seems to durdle around more than my liking. I have tested and found out Dread of Night is not as good against Maverick then winning first or second turn. I was considering cutting one probe for a 4th fetch. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambert101 View Post
    Thanks, I may go to Jupiter Games tomorrow with his list. I was sold on Ubr Ant for awhile but that deck seems to durdle around more than my liking. I have tested and found out Dread of Night is not as good against Maverick then winning first or second turn. I was considering cutting one probe for a 4th fetch. Thoughts?

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    Thats what i run at the moment, i'm just too uneasy with 13 lands

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    the land count is what really got me. I know Bryant has this deck on mental lock. Meaning he knows the right numbers. For a low-middle T.E.S. pilot I feel a little more assurance with cutting a probe for a land. Is empty still worth it in the main over tendrills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambert101 View Post
    the land count is what really got me. I know Bryant has this deck on mental lock. Meaning he knows the right numbers. For a low-middle T.E.S. pilot I feel a little more assurance with cutting a probe for a land. Is empty still worth it in the main over tendrills?
    The main deck empty allows for you to use the drawn kill. so against rug you can just kill them with it instead of it being a mulligan. the probes all help with this as you don't have to go for ad nause.
    Now an Infernal Tutor with 4 floating is a turn one. It just makes the deck a whole turn faster which is sometimes enough.

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    I still may switch the probe for a fetch.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Abrupt Decay's only disadvantage to e. truth is that it can't bounce multiple chalices or duplicate hate permanents and e. truth is castable off of all the lands in the deck.
    It also doesn't deal with Leyline of Sanctity. This is less of an issue with Empty maindeck over Tendrils, but Leyline does still screw up your Probes, Duresses, etc.
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    So should I cut a probe for a land?

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Quote Originally Posted by lambert101 View Post
    So should I cut a probe for a land?
    You should do whatever is correct for your regional metagame.

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    Don't cut the probe for a land.

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    Bryant's stock list it is. Just got two Karakas for 120 so I'm ready.

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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Bryant, how do you feel about Therapy main over Duress? I've been testing it to great success. It opens a board spot, and it's crazy insane with Empty the Warrens.

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    I had the pleasure of playing against Lambert101 this weekend, I had lost my round one, then had to play against him round two. I was on Maverick, he was playing T.E.S. if he hadn't misplayed against me he probably would have won.

    I'm still thinking Abrupt Decay is better than Echoing Truth despite the fact that it doesn't hit Leyline or Lodestone. Has anyone done testing with this card yet?

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    Quick recap from Jupiter. Went 2-x. Haven't played legacy since May. Overall list was would. MVP was cabal therapy. Board plans were amazing and decay is something that should be strongly considered.

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    I wrote a long post, then I came into the conclusion that it's too complicated to decide whether Decay is worth running over Echoing Truth or not without test results, so I deleted the worthless content.

    Abrupt Decay will see play in some decks and that will work in our favor, that much is pretty safe to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Cook View Post
    I had the pleasure of playing against Lambert101 this weekend, I had lost my round one, then had to play against him round two. I was on Maverick, he was playing T.E.S. if he hadn't misplayed against me he probably would have won.

    I'm still thinking Abrupt Decay is better than Echoing Truth despite the fact that it doesn't hit Leyline or Lodestone. Has anyone done testing with this card yet?
    I've been doing a bit of testing, and it seems that you want the 13th land back in to hit the color requirements. That could have just been the small number of games I played, but I did have a bit of difficulty casting it, especially if you naturally draw the volcanic. I have not, however, done any testing against lodestone golem or leyline, they don't seem that important to prepare for.

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    Question regarding dropping Tendrils from the maindeck in favor of EtW:

    If one plays more often than not against decks that win in a quick manner, would swapping ToA for EtW be the thing to do? Just trying to understand the thought process behind both lines of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jandax View Post
    Question regarding dropping Tendrils from the maindeck in favor of EtW:

    If one plays more often than not against decks that win in a quick manner, would swapping ToA for EtW be the thing to do? Just trying to understand the thought process behind both lines of play.
    I would still run ETW over TOA. ETW is still never a dead draw where TOA is, it can always be sided out.

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    Empty won me almost all of my games at Juipter this weekend. The only time where I wanted Tendrils was against Miracles, Stoneblade, and Nic Fit. Most decks can't deal with an empty for 8-12 turns 1-2.

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    TES by Matt Juszczak

    He just won his top 8 and is in top 4!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryant Cook View Post
    TES by Matt Juszczak

    He just won his top 8 and is in top 4!
    Not an hour ago it was listed as AnT, and I was bored
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