I'm not even going to bother testing Epic Experiment. The card costs approximately infinite if you want to reliably win with it as a storm engine. It's almost required that you have double LED to use this card and not fizzle. The card is a watered down mind's desire, and mind's desire isn't even that great in here. You could try to design a completely new storm shell for the card but I doubt it would be better than what we have currently.
Exiling protection isn't necessarily the worst. Casting a silence for free when your opponent is holding a stifle makes that stifle look quite bad. UBr ANT has the same problem with this card in theory as well; exiling therapy/duress instead of real cards to continue the combo.
The only draw to experiment is the synergy with brainstorm, but even that seems like a corner case unless you happen to raw dog tendrils or something along those lines.
You also have to pump 9+ mana into this card to win, as you're very likely going to wish into the card and going for X=4 seems incredibly risky and at that point I'd rather d. returns with 2 mana floating, as drawing 7 cards with 2 mana floating is likely going to win the game for you.
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Originally Posted by Vacrix
Bryant, How did the Hivemind matches play out? I have never played against that deck with the Epiciness.
Hive mind is relatively easy as long as they don't show and tell emrakrul on turn 1.
Played the old love at the local tourney today. had to drop in the finals to pick up my fiancee. Played Bryant's exact 75, because I haven't a clue about storm.
Round 1 Gobbos
2-0
Round 2 ANT
2-1: Silence is a monster
Round 3 Dredge
1-2: I get lucksacked out. Actually, I have never beat LED with TES. It's like they're always a turn faster and have more disruption.
round 4 UG Enchantress
2-1
Semifinals UW Miracles
2-0
ETW main was horrible. I wanted tendrils main all the time.
Just Silence them on turn 2. And keep aggressive draws. The matchup is actually pretty good. Also, Duress is shocking good against them on the play. Actually, just win the die roll, that helps a ton.
Basically just do what Ari said. Also, I havent been in a single situation where I've wanted Tendrils main deck yet. The Empty the Warrens main has forced blue players to play against me differently, forcing them to counter mana at times instead of just waiting for the tutor. It's beautiful.
I don't understand this. They counter your acceleration because they're worried you have a miser's copy of a win condition in your hand? That seems paranoid, and countering mana gives you a much better opportunity to rebuild. It seems more optimal for the blue player to just risk you having EtW in hand in order to try and counter a tutor, buying them a lot of turns to win the game (as well as find more counters to disrupt your plan if you topdeck well).
I've run your most recent list quite a bit lately and I haven't been happy with EtW either. I've won games with EtW I couldn't have won with Tendrils (and vice versa when swapping one for the other), but overall I tend to want Tendrils much more frequently than EtW. Since I never make 20 Goblins, I have to combo, pass the turn, swing, pass the turn, swing. This leaves me vulnerable to sweepers (Terminus) and flat-out loses games if I'm sitting across from a lethal creature with evasion. I've had several awkward testing sessions where this happened (usually because I'm 1-2 mana short of IT->BW->Tendrils and can only go for IT->Empty)
For whatever it's worth, otherwise I like your list a lot. Probe has been amazing and the 12 lands has been surprisingly good (although I've definitely had to win with plenty of no-landers, which used to be much more rare). Gold lands are still awesome, I tried the list without them and it's basically unplayable.
Just switch to tendrils in certain match-ups like miracles/stoneblade, sneak attack, reanimator, and so on.
Or just run it main deck so you don't lose game 1 to Terminus and have to win both post-board games versus a blue deck with Counterbalance. I like that plan better, your mileage may vary in your regional meta game.
Question:
it not too clear to me but with e. experiment, and once it is casted, which are the options of playing a shown e. expirement?
X is 0 if you cast Epic Experiment without paying its mana cost.
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I just would like to share my thinkings about Abrupt Decay, and I'd like you to share yours.
By the moment I read that card I just thoutgh 4 in side, that's it, simple 4 as a must, that was my first though, because this cards MEANS that from now on counterbalance will be a bad card, you need guys need to agree with me on this. First point.
So at first I'd like to include 4 copies of this fantastic card in side, but next I though, that if this card really represents the decay of c.b. then, there will not be a need of including it because in midle, long terms people will stop to definately play c.b. Second Point.
So I will test 3-4 copies in side and lets a try, next when the meta will be more stable (means less cunterbalance) I'll likely will decrease the number. Third point.
I've been talking and the control deck that seems to be predominant will be as clear as BUG because the deck clearly gets the benefits of the card (both tempo and control version) Fourth point.
So assuming we'll include the card in side, In my personal build I don't need to change the land configuration -only 1 fetch and 8 rainbow, but the list will need to change accordingly to support the mana investment. 5th point
My reasons to play rainbow and no fetches were:
- in my meta there are tons of canadian -and they play stifle.
- need to cast sometimes double silence. and in one but rare scenario I needed.
- still wins to wastelands.
- Brainstorm is still good even with no fetches.
How will you tune the side wth that incredible card?
A thing to have in mind is that at least a bouncer or enchantment destruction is needed, so I'm thinking to delegate this role to burning into anything that destroys or bounces enchantments, so I'll save 1 space. (0 E.Truths) maybe 1 therapy -2nd space and don't know the 3rd.
I play definately IGG instead PiF.
Changed to -2 C.Therapy to +2 T.Seize, rest is the same as Post.
Well let me know your thinkings.
I think I don't want to play 4 of these because drawing doubles is awful and we already have means to beat Counterbalance (discard or just winning). I'll be running 3 in my board along with a Tropical I think.
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I'll try it over my E.Truths but I'm not even sure that it's better.
I'm willing to let the presence of Abrupt Decay in the metagame kick Counterbalance out of the metagame for me and just concentrate on hating out Gaddok Teeg and Thalia, Guardian of Thraben with the most cost efficient answers possible. If it doesn't happen, then I'll resort to playing Abrupt Decay myself vs Counterbalance.dec
Just sleeved up TES in new perfect fits and sleeves for this weekend at SCG Invi Atlanta!
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Hi Bryant, you mentioned in your first post, that Grapshot is best than pyroclasm or infest.
I tried the card in many games, but dont see how it function, and pyroclasm is good vs opposing tokens and thalias, gaddock, etc. (without mum protection)
Maybe you can explain in some examples when and how is good the Grapeshot.
Thank you very much...
And good luck in SCG..... your list is awesome...
Good luck! i want to see you in the feature match area!
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