[Deck] Turbo Eldrazi

[somethingdotdotdot]

My reasoning for this isn't budget--I already have 3 candles. I just haven't been super impressed w/ them. Maybe If i go to 3, I'll see the often enough to matter (I'm currently running 2 w/ 2-3 maps).

[Illissius]

Perhaps someone can point me to an earlier post discussing this, but with Top, Map, Needle, and Candelabra all being staples in the deck, do Trinket Mages really not deserve to be in it? I mean, that's a ridiculous number of targets.

[Rock Lee]

Perhaps someone can point me to an earlier post discussing this, but with Top, Map, Needle, and Candelabra all being staples in the deck, do Trinket Mages really not deserve to be in it? I mean, that's a ridiculous number of targets.

It is less that he doesn't deserve a spot and more that I prefer the early redundancy instead of relying on having stable mana my first 3 turns. The more I played the deck the more I realized that if you can achieve a stable board state by turn 3 then the game is greatly in your favor. So therefore keeping hands on Trinket mage I was greatly hedging my bets on him stabilizing that board state for me. I found that just running redundant amounts of his targets, or appropriate ratios to them, gave me stronger keep hands and endangered me less board-state wise on those swing turns.

If your meta doesn't have gads of rug, lots of wastes and quick clock decks like goblins, elves and combo, then Trinket mage is the better choice, since he'll let you solidify your games in the slower meta than I have. I simply need to respond to threats earlier.

[gobblor]

Hey Everyone. Just wanted to say that I think this deck looks fun, entertaining, and unique. Therefore I built this on MTGO.

I have a stream on twitch TV http://www.twitch.tv/gobblor

I will be streaming Modern tonight with a little bit of Legacy (This Deck) and maybe some Pauper tonight around 9:00pm EST maybe earlier if I am able.

I am relatively new to streaming and only streamed once (153 viewers not a bad start). I figured I would throw this post in here in case any of you were interested in watching this deck being played as I know legacy can be hard to come by on MTGO. I will warn you however, I have only played in one game with the deck so I will be in the learning process so do not expect super good play right away or anything.

Thats all, See ya!

[Rock Lee]

Hey Everyone. Just wanted to say that I think this deck looks fun, entertaining, and unique. Therefore I built this on MTGO.

I have a stream on twitch TV http://www.twitch.tv/gobblor

I will be streaming Modern tonight with a little bit of Legacy (This Deck) and maybe some Pauper tonight around 9:00pm EST maybe earlier if I am able.

I am relatively new to streaming and only streamed once (153 viewers not a bad start). I figured I would throw this post in here in case any of you were interested in watching this deck being played as I know legacy can be hard to come by on MTGO. I will warn you however, I have only played in one game with the deck so I will be in the learning process so do not expect super good play right away or anything.

Thats all, See ya!

Nice! I hope you get lots of views. I had never thought about streaming playing the deck before, but from what I hear from folks about the lack of success with the deck it might be worth me to start streaming it as well.

Let me know how it goes, I'll stop by and see if I can give some opinions as you go if I'm back in time.

[TheBoozeCube]

My reasoning for this isn't budget--I already have 3 candles. I just haven't been super impressed w/ them. Maybe If i go to 3, I'll see the often enough to matter (I'm currently running 2 w/ 2-3 maps).

Ok, I think that's the issue. I run 4x Map, 4x Crop Rotation, 4x Ancient Stirrings. The more land tutors your deck runs, the more consistently your Candelabras will matter early.

[TheBoozeCube]

Rock Lee:

I'm quite intrigued by your use of Cursed Totem. While probably not ideal for my local meta, it's definitely something I'm going to have to keep in mind for larger tournaments. What do you use it for besides Maverick?

[HoneyT]

I'm quite intrigued by your use of Cursed Totem. While probably not ideal for my local meta, it's definitely something I'm going to have to keep in mind for larger tournaments. What do you use it for besides Maverick?

Mostly Elves. Quite an abysmal matchup otherwise.

[Rock Lee]

Rock Lee:

I'm quite intrigued by your use of Cursed Totem. While probably not ideal for my local meta, it's definitely something I'm going to have to keep in mind for larger tournaments. What do you use it for besides Maverick?

I already replied to this multiple times, but Griselbrand and Elves mostly. I don't even side it in against maverick 100% of the time. build depending. For example, the white-centric builds with aven mindcensors and SFM are wasted on cursed totem.

[Raystar]

I'm going to play the deck again on Saturday and I'll sleeve the last build with 4 Repeals but with the following SB:

1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
4 Flusterstorm
3 Spell Pierce
4 Elephant Grass
3 Cursed Totem

Last week I faced Goblins twice and I want to have a strong matchup against aggro post-side (there always is some maverick and merfolks presence).

Comments? Ideas? I'd love to hear your thoughts :)

[sublime love]

Rock lee.
Oh how I live reading this thread. People are playing post because they think its good, then ask for advise because they don't know who to ask, so they ask the guy who places with it at random tournament and talks to them in a thread.
They argue about the list, is show good, no its bad do I need candel, how many maps should I run?. Idiots
Its show, play it vrs a fair deck, and they lose. That is what show does, I put out a win, u play a goyf. Hahaha
This not the list u kids need to get right, there are 10 different ways to play it. The reason its good is its not a net deck. So your opponent does not know your 75 like you know there's.
12 post takes a style of play, and skill.
Its not the list u need to get right, its tight play and sideboardimg right.
they deck sits perfect in the meta game right now, lands, elves, bug control, ago loam, storm are the hard match ups. Everything else should be a win.
That simple

[Rock Lee]

Rock lee.
Oh how I live reading this thread. People are playing post because they think its good, then ask for advise because they don't know who to ask, so they ask the guy who places with it at random tournament and talks to them in a thread.
They argue about the list, is show good, no its bad do I need candel, how many maps should I run?. Idiots
Its show, play it vrs a fair deck, and they lose. That is what show does, I put out a win, u play a goyf. Hahaha
This not the list u kids need to get right, there are 10 different ways to play it. The reason its good is its not a net deck. So your opponent does not know your 75 like you know there's.
12 post takes a style of play, and skill.
Its not the list u need to get right, its tight play and sideboardimg right.
they deck sits perfect in the meta game right now, lands, elves, bug control, ago loam, storm are the hard match ups. Everything else should be a win.
That simple

More drunk texts from Daniel Hall.

But what he says is correct. The deck is strong because it has an incredibly high card-pool. The comments and suggestions I have given are towards the style of play I enjoy the most and have found the most success with, but they are by no means the have-all-end-all for the deck.

There are easily 15 different successful builds for this deck and the cardpool is phenomenally vast making the potential builds astronomically large.

Play what you want, no need to get upset. But I will always bias my opinions towards the build that I'm running at the moment.


That being said. Just won another weekly event in Windsor, CT. Huzzah. After expenses, I'm netting 100$ a week with Eldrazi and have been for over a year now. I love this deck so much! <3

[evanmartyr]

Any thoughts on Cyclonic Rift potentially replacing Repeal? It seems fairly solid.

[Rock Lee]

Any thoughts on Cyclonic Rift potentially replacing Repeal? It seems fairly solid.

I saw Cyclonic Rift, and it was interesting. This is definitely the only deck that could overload it. However, I feel like Repeal is an especially unique removal spell since it is active at all stages of the game and cycles. It would require something strictly better than it to replace it imo.

[Xtreme]

Rock lee.
Oh how I live reading this thread. People are playing post because they think its good, then ask for advise because they don't know who to ask, so they ask the guy who places with it at random tournament and talks to them in a thread.
They argue about the list, is show good, no its bad do I need candel, how many maps should I run?. Idiots
Its show, play it vrs a fair deck, and they lose. That is what show does, I put out a win, u play a goyf. Hahaha
This not the list u kids need to get right, there are 10 different ways to play it. The reason its good is its not a net deck. So your opponent does not know your 75 like you know there's.
12 post takes a style of play, and skill.
Its not the list u need to get right, its tight play and sideboardimg right.
they deck sits perfect in the meta game right now, lands, elves, bug control, ago loam, storm are the hard match ups. Everything else should be a win.
That simple

As I've been part of the discussion here, I'm taking this as party adressed to me. I think the decklist discussion is valuable. Although it might be possible to make many lists, there are still cards that make certain matchups better and some worse. Without further knowledge, the assumed decks to beat and strategy needs to consentrate on the DTB-sections decks here. With that said, there is in fact a superior list that has the best win % aggainst most of the field. This is all meta-knowledge aside.

I see you're trying to make a point, and even made one. However, If I were the writer of that wall of text, I would hesitate to call anyone else an idiot.

[Rock Lee]

I see you're trying to make a point, and even made one. However, If I were the writer of that wall of text, I would hesitate to call anyone else an idiot.

Dan Hall isn't known for his diplomacy. Just check his tumblr where he lauds his misplays and Judge-banking error in his favor as stomping people and calls out his opponents with more skill as Punks. He's not the most benign personality'd of players, but he does play my deck to moderate success, so I give him credit for that. =D

The purpose of my comment though, was I was just trying to address his points as valid. There are lots of builds, with lots of viability. I just strongly believe that whatever I'm running at the moment is poised best against the meta.

[Vacrix]

I'd like to mention this guy since its one of the more relevant cards to this archetype that was spoiled.

The advantage to playing this card is that you can GSZ for it in the GSZ focused builds.. but more so the fact that Karakas is an ever present part of the metagame. Everyone is siding it in and its much stronger against this deck than it is against Reanimator where they still get to draw 7-14 cards with Grizz or even SnT where Sneak Attack where the same thing happens. Also, KoTR can find maindeck Karakas as well if thats what they put into play off SnT when we play it in the SnT build.

Triple green is pretty steep and it also has to die rather than leave play for you to get the 5/5's.. but it does have the advantage of dodging the GGG in the hard cast when you just GSZ for it, and 12 mana is par with an Eldrazi. So my question is, should this guy work his way into GSZ builds as a 1'of or should the GSZ toolbox be more utility and Titan focused? I'm thinking this guy will probably just be win more; if you have the mana to GSZ you probably should have already GSZ'd for Titan and just win and if you get this guy instead of a Titan... then you don't get the advantage of finding 2 lands to secure their win if you run into a removal spell.


Also, on the topic of GSZ builds, I think that Terastodon deserves another look considering its versatility as either 18 power, blowing up troublesome permanents, or even locking your opponent out of the game by blowing up their lands and then playing Tabernacle.



I agree on Repeal > Cyclonic Rift. Even if you wanted to run a spell like Rift, I'd imagine Devastation Tide would be better than Rift quite often.

[Rock Lee]

I'd like to mention this guy since its one of the more relevant cards to this archetype that was spoiled.

I can't think of a single situation where I'd want to GSZ for a worldspine wurm over primeval titan. like. ever.

I like the worm, and it peaked my interest in the first few spoiled cards, but I think its niche is belonging in a natural order deck that runs therapy.

[HoneyT]

Exactly what Rock Lee said. This is about never better than a Titan. Also, Karakas does almost nothing against this deck. The bounce an Emrakul and we simply re-cast it on the extra turn, or draw more cards, or blow something else up. In Show and Tell situations, Titan is pretty much always better against Karakas decks anyway.

[TheBoozeCube]

I've never really played a GSZ-based build. But it seems to be a pretty rare situation where you would want to GSZ for 11 over just casting an Eldrazi - not to mention that hardcasting Worldspine Wurm requires GGG.

The only scenario I can think of is where (1) your opponent has removal, (2) he has lethal damage on board if you don't block, (3) his creatures don't have evasion, (4) you don't have any PrimeTimes in your library to get with GSZ, and (5) you have no Glimmerposts left in your library to get with PrimeTime. And even in this unlikely situation, All Is Dust would probably be better.