[Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

[Machahiko]

Turn three could have also went like this:land drop, Brainstorm(put ad Nauseum, then b wish on top)>Probe paying two life and drawing b wish>Dark Ritual>Infernal Tutor(find LED)>Chrome Mox(imprint duress)>LED>LED>Burning Wish(using black floating and Gemstone Mine) while cracking LEDs for six black>Iggy>LED>LED>Infernal Tutor,crack LEDs for black and red>Burning Wish>Tendrils for 28 life.

What if your opponent is doing 3-6 damage a turn with any old aggro deck? A third turn Ad Nauseum won't get there then.

Ad Nauseum is random, but Ill-Gotten Gains is not. Ad Nauseum will not be an option every game you play in either. Ill-Gotten Gains, Past in Flames, and Diminishing Returns are in the sideboard for a reason guys. You guys should practice more with the other engines of the deck.

Thanks for the reply, and this is why I asked for a bit more specific puzzles since this way it's just maybe a bit too easy to Ad Nauseam in each scenario. Or at least I always imagine Ad Nauseam as my primary win condition, and because of that I always think of going for it when possible. I actually use IGG pretty often, Diminishing Returns from time to time - Past in Flames is used pretty much never ever. I just feel like PiF needs 4-6 rituals in graveyard in order to be good, and with that amount of rituals I can usually win with other cards.

Thanks for saying the version which would have been more safe and 100% sure, since AdN can crap out from time to time.

[Megadeus]

Meh the chances of fizzling after Ad Nauseum are so slim, that I would do it again. It never happens to me other than that one time. Like I said. I was at 19 life, not 13. The fact that 4 cantrips later I still didnt find anything is just icing that God didnt want it to happen... I use IGG probably the most, then Diminishing Returns (even though I hate it), then PiF like the guy before me, I almost never use. Almost always I cannot sustain a good steady engine without an LED and PiF does not help me out there.

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Meh the chances of fizzling after Ad Nauseum are so slim, that I would do it again. It never happens to me other than that one time. Like I said. I was at 19 life, not 13. The fact that 4 cantrips later I still didnt find anything is just icing that God didnt want it to happen... I use IGG probably the most, then Diminishing Returns (even though I hate it), then PiF like the guy before me, I almost never use. Almost always I cannot sustain a good steady engine without an LED and PiF does not help me out there.

Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

[Megadeus]

Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

Right. Returns just ugh... I wish that Reforge the Soul were 4 mana...

[coraz86]

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

Ditto. I saw endure2004 complain the other day in a tournament report that Time Spiral, while good on paper, was consistently one mana too much. Has anyone tried Time Reversal in that slot? I don't love it, but sometimes I want that Hail Mary--I'm going to try it pretty soon, unless it's proven completely awful for someone.

[Bryant Cook]

Ditto. I saw endure2004 complain the other day in a tournament report that Time Spiral, while good on paper, was consistently one mana too much. Has anyone tried Time Reversal in that slot? I don't love it, but sometimes I want that Hail Mary--I'm going to try it pretty soon, unless it's proven completely awful for someone.

The problem with Returns isn't that it exiles the top 10 cards of your library. If you read the opening post, you would know that Time Reversal has been tried. I haven't been able to post as much recently, there's a new boss at work, he's very much against using the internet for personal use. That said, it's a bit disappointing to check the thread and see all this crap.

[Megadeus]

The problem with Returns isn't that it exiles the top 10 cards of your library. If you read the opening post, you would know that Time Reversal has been tried. I haven't been able to post as much recently, there's a new boss at work, he's very much against using the internet for personal use. That said, it's a bit disappointing to check the thread and see all this crap.

Right. D Returns is used to refill the hand and then go off a turn or two later with a new grip. That is what I use it for anyway. I just hate that it gets rid of your GY. Ive never had issues with the card that I exiled before though.

[Koby]

Past in Flames is necessary. It wins enough games where Iggy won't (and vice-versa) to warrant inclusion in the sideboard.

I still hate Diminishing Returns. It's butt fucked me too much.

Use lube* next time.

* tears of burn players who lost holding on to Pyrostatic Pillar in hand as they take 20 on Turn 1.

[Bryant Cook]

Use lube* next time.

* tears of burn players who lost holding on to Pyrostatic Pillar in hand as they take 20 on Turn 1.

I'm glad Koby joined the dark side, now I get to read posts like this.

[Basaka]

DR is good when you shuffle 2 bobs and a Liliana your opponent has away, then draw into 3 lands, 4 cantrips, proceeding to rip into the sick with those cantrips next turn and killing your opponent to lock top 8 (true story).

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

I'm glad Koby joined the dark side, now I get to read posts like this.

He's playing DDFT.

[thefringthing]

The MTGO Legacy metagame is weird. Half Countertop decks and half Show and Tell. I'm thinking about adjusting the sideboard a bit to compensate.

[Koby]

He's playing DDFT.

I have no allegiance to any deck. I play whatever gets easy wins at any given metagame. DDFT is more of a mental exercise to keep the brain sharp. TES is for crushing face when you expect to not play vs blue decks.

[Megadeus]

Blue decks of the control variants arent even that bad... its tempo that rapes us. I guess CB sucks for us, bit esper stoneblade isnt horrid...

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

I have no allegiance to any deck. I play whatever gets easy wins at any given metagame. DDFT is more of a mental exercise to keep the brain sharp. TES is for crushing face when you expect to not play vs blue decks.

Losing to Thoughtscour sucks.

[Bryant Cook]

Went 6-0 at a local. Twice D-Returns won me two game three's in consecutive rounds.

[emidln]

Twice D-Returns won me two game three's in consecutive rounds.

1000% skill. Also, nice. Opening post list?

[aaronm678]

Have you guys considered a Trop or Bayou in the SB? I've been practicing the Miracles matchup quite a bit, and I've had a lot of trouble getting GB up in a reasonable amount of time. Putting a dual in puts us from 6 to 10 Green sources after SB (since Petal isn't really a green source if they've landed CB).

[RaNDoMxGeSTuReS]

Have you guys considered a Trop or Bayou in the SB? I've been practicing the Miracles matchup quite a bit, and I've had a lot of trouble getting GB up in a reasonable amount of time. Putting a dual in puts us from 6 to 10 Green sources after SB (since Petal isn't really a green source if they've landed CB).

Totally saw Jund scoop to your turn one on Magic Online.

I'd play the third City of Brass before Tropical Island or Bayou.

[aaronm678]

Totally saw Jund scoop to your turn one on Magic Online.

I'd play the third City of Brass before Tropical Island or Bayou.

Why would you play City of Brass over Trop? At least in the Miracles matchup, I've been boarding down to 1-2 Silence, since you don't really want to draw more than one of them, since that deck isn't really setup to cast more than 1 Counterspell in a turn.

I have been playtesting quite a bit on Modo, I've played ANT for a little while, trying to get used to the playstyle of TES.