[Deck] GW/x Maverick

[dunk]

If you want to play Maverick on Modo make sure to start your sideboard with 4 Mindbreak Trap ( but beware, they are expensive ). Add some o - rings and a 2nd Karakas to your 75. It's probably a good idea to adapt to Stoneforge Mystic to do better in grindy matchups and Burn.

So yeah, I think it's possible for Maverick to adapt to Modo. Still, it will lack consistency without Brainstorm, sad but true. And other decks are probably better choices...

[Koby]

If you want to play Maverick on Modo make sure to start your sideboard with 4 Mindbreak Trap ( but beware, they are expensive ). Add some o - rings and a 2nd Karakas to your 75. It's probably a good idea to adapt to Stoneforge Mystic to do better in grindy matchups and Burn.

So yeah, I think it's possible for Maverick to adapt to Modo. Still, it will lack consistency without Brainstorm, sad but true. And other decks are probably better choices...

Yep exactly, at the point where MBT seems really attractive, you're dropping 60 tix to "fix" your deck. Or just play FoW and run a better deck.

[ironclad8690]

It's unlikely playable in the MTGO metagame. Too much Belcher/Burn and S&T to really be the "best" choice. It's fine if people want to durdle around with fair cards however.

Do you think it's better in paper?

[Koby]

Do you think it's better in paper?

Yes, absolutely. But it's also depending on what your expected metagame holds. If you walk into The Combo Den bringing Maverick, well you get what you deserve.

[black]

Yep, it was big red (wrote the primer, but you ran into hdeck12). I was on Junk all day, but sick job with the mav. :)

Thanks!

[conley1000000]

Yes, absolutely. But it's also depending on what your expected metagame holds. If you walk into The Combo Den bringing Maverick, well you get what you deserve.

Fair enough. Totally agree about heading into combo, but theres ways to prepare. I saw ya went back for more last night, only got to watch through the RUG match. How'd ya finish?

[ironclad8690]

Yes, absolutely. But it's also depending on what your expected metagame holds. If you walk into The Combo Den bringing Maverick, well you get what you deserve.

Maybe I've just played against really incompetent combo players, but it seems like the following cards usually do enough work to win combo matchups:

Storm: Thalia/Teeg/Ethersworn Cannonist

Show And Tell: Karakas/Knight

Painter Stone: Qasali

Enchantress: Ethersworn Cannonist

Of course, there will always be situations like Omniscience/Emrakul, or Chain of Vapor/Echoing Truth on Thalia/Teeg/Cannonist, but that aside I think Maverick stands a better chance vs combo than Jund or any other non blue deck; especially main deck.

Also, what are peoples' opinions on Fauna Shaman? I am torn between running her as a 1 of or not at all. She has saved my ass in certain situations, but in others it seems top decking her is a pain.

[Lord_Mcdonalds]

I like Fauna Shaman if your running maindeck Linvala, Loyal Retainers or any white hate bear as a silver bullet, or if you experience the mirror a lot. Other than that, she's been meh for me.

[Gotta]

Hi everybody, I ve been following this thread for a while but never wrote.

I used to play GW Maverick straight but I have decided to give the black splash a try.

Since I found BUG, Omnitell and Storm the most difficult match ups to win, I tried to make the deck a bit "stronger" against these decks with the black splash,

Here is my list:

4 Wasteland
4 Savannah
3 Windswept Heath
1 Karakas
1 Forest
1 Plains
1 Horizon Canopy
3 Bayou
3 Verdant Catacombs
1 Maze of Ith
1 Dryad Arbor

4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Mother of Runes
2 Noble Hierarch
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
1 Scryb Ranger
1 Gaddock Teeg
4 Deathrite Shaman

2 Umezawa's Jitte

4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Thoughtseize
3 Inquisition of Kozilek

3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Abrupt Decay

1 Sylvan Library


SB: 2 Enlightened Tutor
SB: 2 Oblivion Ring
SB: 2 Faerie Macabre
SB: 2 Pithing Needle
SB: 2 Krosan Grip
SB: 2 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 1 Gaddock Teeg
SB: 1 Dueling Grounds
SB: 1 Karakas

however, I am a bit in doubt with my "let s see how it works" list,

Any suggestion and advice is very wellcome

[Fatal]

How does cutting Thalia helps against Combo/Control MU where 80% of their deck are spells - its wrong direction.

Also 6 mana dorks looks overkill vs any kind of board wipers like Terminus. I would decrease to 4 for sure.

Second thought - about manabase I would cut Maze of Ith to gain more stable mana base unless you have a lot of Affinity running around.

The biggest winner from black splash are not only point discard but more over Dark Confidant - its Human so can also be cast from Cavern of Souls which your list missing.

That's my 0.02 I hope I helped :].

[M@verick]

Hey guys,

after a long time, I want to post the deck I am testing and some results. I know it´s not the kind of main deck that you all are posting, but I got very good results and I want to share with you.

First of all, just saying that I only anoted competitive games, where my opponent knew what he was doing. I did small changes in MD and SB when testing, before getting a deck which I was very comfortable.

List:

// Lands
2 [A] Scrubland
2 [U] Savannah
1 [UNH] Plains
2 [R] Bayou
1 [LG] Karakas
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [US] Gaea's Cradle
2 [FUT] Horizon Canopy
1 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
1 [FUT] Dryad Arbor
1 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs

// Creatures
3 [ON] Weathered Wayfarer
2 [TSP] Scryb Ranger
4 [UL] Mother of Runes
3 [WWK] Stoneforge Mystic
3 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
4 [RTR] Deathrite Shaman
3 [ALA] Tidehollow Sculler

// Spells
4 [DS] AEther Vial
3 [AT] Swords to Plowshares
1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
1 [DS] Sword of Fire and Ice
1 [DS] Sword of Light and Shadow
2 [DKA] Lingering Souls
2 [RTR] Abrupt Decay
2 [5E] Sylvan Library

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [LRW] Thoughtseize
SB: 3 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 [8E] Choke
SB: 3 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
SB: 2 [DKA] Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
SB: 2 [LRW] Oblivion Ring


Results:

Death and taxes 2-0
Omnitell 2-0
12 post 2-0
43 lands 2-0
Shardless Bug 2-0
RUG 2-1
RUG 1-2
RUG 1-2
RUG 2-0
Burn 2-1


Elves 2-0
Elves 0-2
BUG 0-2
Death and taxes 2-1
Zombys 2-0
UB america 2-0
UB america 2-0
Burn UR 0-2
Death and taxes 2-0
UW faerys 2-0


Mud 2-1
Bant 2-1
UR burn 2-0
BUG blade 2-0
shardless bug order 0-2
shardless bug order 0-2
shardless bug order 2-1
Jund 2-0
Pox 2-0
Omnitell 2-1


Punishing zoo 2-0
goblins 2-0
4C zoo 1-2
Goblins 2-0
BUG 2-1
Goblins 2-1
RUG guided passage 2-0
Jund 1-2
Mono black 2-0
Show and tell 2-0


Omnitell 1-2
Jund 1-2
Mono white tomb 2-0
shardless bug order 2-1
UGR control 2-1
Omnitell sneak 2-1
4C RUG 2-1
Jund 2-1
Agro loam 2-0
Shardless BUG 2-1


Sneak attack 2-0
Red Nic Fit 2-0
Jund punishing 1-2
UW faerys 2-1
UWB blade tempo 2-0
Affinity 0-2
Goblins 2-0
Miracles field 2-1
Jund 1-2
MonoWhite equipments 2-0


White stax 2-0
White stax 2-1
White stax 2-0
ANT 2-1
ANT 1-2
ANT 2-1
Jund 2-0


I dont know the reason, but i didnt face any Esper, which i consider is a good MU.

The main question is? what about jund?
Do you know any MD or SB card to try to win jund? it reminds me of the old fast zoos, 2 years ago, with the best creatures and much removal.

[Koby]

Hey guys,
...
The main question is? what about jund?
Do you know any MD or SB card to try to win jund? it reminds me of the old fast zoos, 2 years ago, with the best creatures and much removal.

If they are heavily relying on Liliana, then Wilt-leaf Liege or Obstinate Baloth will both help. They are large enough against Abrupt Decay and Lightning Bolt, and you get to cheat them into play from their forced discard. Otherwise, Hexproof guys like Troll Ascetic or Thrun would also help.

M@verick - I've sorted and cleaned up your data to make it easier to read:

RUG, ANT, Jund, BUG, Omnitell are the only real matches that you played significant amount against. They seem to be about even.

Row Labels	Sum of W	Sum of L
12 post 		2	0
43 lands 		2	0
4C RUG 			2	1
4C zoo 			1	2
Affinity 		0	2
Agro loam 		2	0
ANT 			5	4
Bant 			2	1
BUG 			2	3
BUG blade 		2	0
Burn 			2	1
Burn UR 		0	2
Death and taxes 	6	1
Elves 			2	2
goblins 		8	1
Jund 			9	7
Jund punishing 		1	2
Miracles field 		2	1
Mono black 		2	0
Mono white tomb 	2	0
MonoWhite equipments 	2	0
Mud 			2	1
Omnitell 		5	3
Omnitell sneak 		2	1
Pox 			2	0
Punishing zoo 		2	0
Red Nic Fit 		2	0
RUG 			6	5
RUG guided passage 	2	0
Shardless Bug 		4	1
shardless bug order 	4	6
Show and tell 		2	0
Sneak attack 		2	0
UB america 		4	0
UGR control 		2	1
UR burn 		2	0
UW faerys 		4	1
UWB blade tempo 	2	0
White stax 		6	1
Zombys 			2	0
Grand Total		113	50

[kingsey]

If you were going into a meta filled with Sneak attack, and omniscience. What would your sideboard options be? There has been an influx of show and tell, not storm but show and tell.

Pithing needle
Oring
Knight + Karakas
?

[maktus]

If you were going into a meta filled with Sneak attack, and omniscience. What would your sideboard options be? There has been an influx of show and tell, not storm but show and tell.

Pithing needle
Oring
Knight + Karakas
?

I'm testing against show and tell and many other combos my "Maverick humans":
4x meddling mage (2 md, 2 sb) + 2x fauna shaman (md)
3x detention sphere (sb)
3x cavern of souls (md - human)
1x tropical island (mana fix)
1x huntmaster of the fells (in garruk, linvala or elspeth slot - risky test)
2x gaddock (1 md, 1 sb - isn't human, but very useful)

[Gotta]

How does cutting Thalia helps against Combo/Control MU where 80% of their deck are spells - its wrong direction.

Also 6 mana dorks looks overkill vs any kind of board wipers like Terminus. I would decrease to 4 for sure.

Second thought - about manabase I would cut Maze of Ith to gain more stable mana base unless you have a lot of Affinity running around.

The biggest winner from black splash are not only point discard but more over Dark Confidant - its Human so can also be cast from Cavern of Souls which your list missing.

That's my 0.02 I hope I helped :].

Thank you for the suggestions and thoughts

I ve been playing 4x Thalia so far and she is good, but I found her only able to slowing them down and been killed (not often enough I have the mom to save her ). However, you have a point, I m going to try her again and play the other spells accordingly.

I will definitly try to cut 2 mana guys (the nobles ?) and see how it goes (same for maze of ith)

Dark confidant will bring me to much into Junk and so far I d like to keep black as a splash and still play Maverick

[M@verick]

knight + karakas is maind deck, so a mix of the other cards would be fine. I especially like O.ring.

RUG, ANT, Jund, BUG, Omnitell are the only real matches that you played significant amount against. They seem to be about even.

I disagree a bit. ANT is not so played, I usually see more gobos, elves or even D&T and URburn/burn.

[kingsey]

Is intrepid hero too janky for sideboard ?

Also thinking maybe a e tutor sideboard with

Cannonist
Rest in piece
Dueling ground

[Koby]

Is intrepid hero too janky for sideboard ?

Also thinking maybe a e tutor sideboard with

Cannonist
Rest in piece
Dueling ground

Why do you feel like shooting yourself in the foot?

[kingsey]

Why do you feel like shooting yourself in the foot?

Sorry about that, didnt finish my first cup of coffee before typing

[heallan]

Why do you feel like shooting yourself in the foot?

Rest in peace is fine ... It is almost an auto win against Dredge and is very usefull against all those deathrite deck. A 2/2 knight is better than a 0/1 Tarmo, 1/1 Mang. Moreover deathrite should have eaten most of our land anyway so it is almost every time okay. Rest in peace win me so many games, i ll never cut it.