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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

    Quote Originally Posted by DrJones View Post
    Number of people registered as one of the guilds on the planeswalker points page since it went live: 84103
    Number of people who voted in the poll last week: 88713
    Number of people who usually vote in WotC's polls: 2000-20000 (example, example, example)
    Even though they allow multiple votes to be cast, it's possible that they delete any duplicate votes from the same IP address before counting the results. I feel like it would be less likely to end in a near tie if people were allowed to game the system. Whoever had the most efficient voting bot should win by a reasonable margin, right?

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    Legendary Land

    Tap- Add R to mana pool.
    Tap- Sacrifice land, target permanent with mana cost 8 or greater deals damage to its owner equal to the converted mana cost of target permanent.
    They've already accounted for something like this because Griselbrand has lifelink. Also, since it's a legendary land, the sneak and show decks can just start running this out preemptively to blow up the opponent's copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joemauer View Post
    Funny. I feel as if Standard is completely useless at the moment.
    I mean whatever gets created is obviously going to be something that is more targeted for standard (the majority of their players buying boosters who would be voting are standard players). Legacy players just need to hope that they get something that is also useable in legacy.
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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

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    The whole thing is pretty lame. Anything without a DCI registration can easily be hacked. A bot can fake different IP adresses as well. I myself voted 4 times without spending any effort on cheating - just by using different computers in different networks. No idea what they did about it, but maybe they are just faking us numbers and do what they want after all. If that is true I wonder why they did not lower the vote count though.

    My suggestion to do this nex time:

    - use dci registration
    - make 3 different cards standard/legacy/modern: Print them in some special set or just ban them in the other formats if necessary
    - only let people vote who played a least a little bit in the format they vote for
    - open an inbox where everybody who voted can send 1 suggestion after the archetype is decided. A lot of work to go through crap, but there might be a couple of good suggestions which they can use as "free R&D". Also communities like thesrouce have the ability to all send the same suggestion so they get an idea of what people are craving for.
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    Most popular lands in gatherer by community rating (similar lands sorted into one slot):
    1. Tolarian Academy/Gaea's Cradle/Cathedral of Serra
    2. Library of Alexandria
    3. Mishra's Workshop
    4. Dual Lands
    5. Fetch Lands
    6. Strip Mine/Wasteland
    7. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    8. The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    9. Karakas
    10. Gemstone Mine/City of Brass/Glimmervoid
    Honorable Mentions: Diamond Valley, Mishra's Factory, Volrath's Stronghold

    Most popular enchantments in gatherer by community rating:
    1. Fastbond/Exploration
    2. Necropotence/Yawgmoth's Bargain
    3. Oath of Druids
    4. Moat
    5. Blood Moon/Contamination
    6. Survival of the Fittest
    7. Nether Void
    8. The Abyss/Grave Pact
    9. Sulfuric Vortex
    10. Mystic Remora
    Honorable Mentions: City of Solitude, Copy Artifact, Equilibrium

    It looks like if you want to design an enchantment with mass apeal, it has to either be a broken "engine", or put a real stop on the opponent. On the other hand, popular lands do many different things. Note also that none of the popular lands enters the battlefield tapped, so I don't expect one of those to win.
    Please stop talking about whether Force of Will is broken or not. It obviously is, and rather than "the glue that holds vintage together" it would be better to call it "the rug under which you hide the filth until there's so much that you can no longer conceal it".

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    Half of the Lands and ALL Engine enchantments Of the list are banned/restricted, what does it tell you for the remaining YmtC options? Nothing except we won't see a multimanaland nor an engine, which was already clear before. Nice listing non the less ... lol'd as I saw enchantments (played all except Vortex myself)
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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

    If they're not going to print land destruction then a Price of Progress hatebear would be cool:

    Basic Bob
    1R

    When Basic Bob etb deal 2 dmg to each player for each non-basic land they control.
    Sacrifice a basic land: return Basic Bob to its owner's hand.

    2/2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oiolosse View Post
    If they're not going to print land destruction then a Price of Progress hatebear would be cool:

    Basic Bob
    1R

    When Basic Bob etb deal 2 dmg to each player for each non-basic land they control.
    Sacrifice a basic land: return Basic Bob to its owner's hand.

    2/2
    Well this wouldn't make burn super broken at all. Float 4 mana, play Basic Bob, bounce, play Basic Bob, fireblast.

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    That guy is nuts with Cavern of Souls. He even dodges removal pretty well.

    Maybe he's the chosen one to bring balance to the nonbasic wasteland that is Modern?
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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

    They had a chance to make a PoP hatebear with Anathemancer, but they blew it by making his ETB trigger only 1 multiple of the number of opponent's nonbasics, instead of twice like PoP. And that guy costed .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawon View Post
    They had a chance to make a PoP hatebear with Anathemancer, but they blew it by making his ETB trigger only 1 multiple of the number of opponent's nonbasics, instead of twice like PoP. And that guy costed .
    But I mean, to be fair, in a format like modern where people are getting like 7 nonbasics, this isn't that bad. Modern is a weird format. I think the only fairly interesting deck that I saw was Kibler's Naya aggro deck recently, that Knight shenanigans with Kessig Wolf Run was -badass-.

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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

    This is what I want:

    Land Double
    You may have ~ enter the battlefield as a copy of any land card in a graveyard.

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    So how about we just make an Academy Ruins for enchantments, everybody wins. :D
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    Re: WotC Presents: You Make the Card 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Amon Amarth View Post
    So how about we just make an Academy Ruins for enchantments, everybody wins. :D
    I wouldn't be suprised if that was the turn-out. People want it for a long time now. What would be good options to use it, aside from recycling Deed?

    But we can't really influence what Wizards gives us as choices for the card text vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    I wouldn't be suprised if that was the turn-out. People want it for a long time now. What would be good options to use it, aside from recycling Deed?

    But we can't really influence what Wizards gives us as choices for the card text vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3dd09 View Post
    elephant grass for days!
    Recycling Solitary Confinement while Enchantress effects are in play sounds solid as well. Also, Sterling Grove for infinite tutoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barook View Post
    I wouldn't be suprised if that was the turn-out. People want it for a long time now. What would be good options to use it, aside from recycling Deed?

    But we can't really influence what Wizards gives us as choices for the card text vote.
    Oh, not much... just recurring Future Sights and Moats in my EDH deck. *cackles gleefully*

    Other than that, it's an auto-include in Enchantress. It probably has niche applications elsewhere in Legacy... but it has a lot of potential. Recycling Planar Collapse or Seal of Cleansing if you just wanna get value. It enables sweet Intuition piles for a janky U/W Replenish/Opalesence deck I've been kicking around forever. Lotsa stuff that I'm not thinking of probably.
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    Yay, Recycling Standstills!
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    So it's enchantment :/

    Still a million Multi-votes and a close decision, what about a 3rd cardtype-round? No? Another joke: no poll this week but a crappy Color Wheel to make up your mind for the Color-poll the following week. Seriously? Drag this One till Christmas, wut?

    Did WotC create any playable (not into-play-cheating) enchantment the last 5 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
    Lemnear sounds harsh at times, but he means well. Or to destroy, but that's when he starts rapping.

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    I can't think of anything but Glare of Subdual.
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