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    [DGM] Render Silent - "A pretty version of Cancel"

    Render Silent - WUU - Instant

    Counter target spell. It's Controller can't cast spells this turn.
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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

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    That said, card is good but 3 mana counterspells are just not playable in this format. Unless they're force or they do something better i guess. I guess flusterstorm is the best storm-hate counterspell we can get, this costing 3 really kills it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Render Silent - WUU - Instant

    Counter target spell. It's Controller can't cast spells this turn.
    A pretty version of Cancel. At least in the Eternal formats.

    Seems really bad for all the same reasons Cancel is bad. I don't think the W you are paying justifies the Silence that gets attached to it. It would be amazing if it costs one less mana though.

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    Needs more Split Second. Not that I would like that in the first place.
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    I had really hoped for a Black Silence-Effect ... geeez
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragoFireheart View Post
    A pretty version of Cancel
    You have Cancel and pretty in the same sentence. Something went horribly wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Treefolk Master View Post
    You have Cancel and pretty in the same sentence. Something went horribly wrong.
    Picture shows a FOIL version ... sentence is valid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Echelon View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Picture shows a FOIL version ... sentence is valid
    Actually no, his comment is correct. Cancel looks ugly no matter how much shiny you put on it.

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    Seems to be confirmed by SCG. They got a non-blurry version somewhere. See:
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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    I'm trying to figure out a way if this card even matters. In Legacy, 3 CMC counterspell better read "draw a card" in order to make them playable. In Modern, 3 mana to counter a spell (and not even guaranteed like Counterflux) will usually be the end of the turn anyway, since how much mana do decks have to continue playing spells? In Standard, same issue and Dispel sees play.

    So in short, how is the portion of this spell relevant?
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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Pretty awful card in Eternal formats.

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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Cancel (and the Dimir 3cc counter) was pretty underwhelming in draft. This is only a little better. It won't get played in Legacy and I don't know enough about the other formats to comment on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clavio View Post
    Cancel (and the Dimir 3cc counter) was pretty underwhelming in draft. This is only a little better. It won't get played in Legacy and I don't know enough about the other formats to comment on them.
    It'll see play in Draft/Block.

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    Sweet card. Should be fun in EDH.
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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Quote Originally Posted by Koby View Post
    I'm trying to figure out a way if this card even matters. In Legacy, 3 CMC counterspell better read "draw a card" in order to make them playable. In Modern, 3 mana to counter a spell (and not even guaranteed like Counterflux) will usually be the end of the turn anyway, since how much mana do decks have to continue playing spells? In Standard, same issue and Dispel sees play.

    So in short, how is the portion of this spell relevant?
    I guess it stops storm decks and decks that dump their creatures (Elves & Affinity), but definitely not better than anything already available.

    However, it does seem alright in a Scepter-still build, if that's still a thing.
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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Quote Originally Posted by thecrav View Post
    I guess it stops storm decks and decks that dump their creatures (Elves & Affinity), but definitely not better than anything already available.

    However, it does seem alright in a Scepter-still build, if that's still a thing.
    Can't even use it with Isochron Scepter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthepit View Post
    Can't even use it with Isochron Scepter.
    Sadly. It would be amazing if you could.

    Maybe some other way of recurring it...?

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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Seems bad. 3cc Counterspell + Silence doesn't seem like something any deck in Legacy would want. Maybe as some weird anti-Storm card? Usually if they cast Silence and I counter it, they'll try to go off if they feel I'm out of counters and just bluffing that I had the 2x FoW.

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    Sweet card. It makes me sad this probably won't get play in eternal formats because it costs too much. Would it be playable if it had Split Second?

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    Re: [DGM] Render Silent - Fake or Found?

    Koby raised a good point; usually your opponent won't be casting more than 1 spell per turn, so the Silence part of it doesn't really do too much unless you know that your opponent was going to cast a bunch of spells in a single turn. Otherwise, it's just Cancel.

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