[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

[bruizar]

What would you do if you had 4x Foil Jace and 4x Foil Tarmogoyf? It's damn desirable as a pimp to play with those cards, but they are too risky to hold because wizards WILL reprint them. Maybe not now, but they will do it. They did it to Goblin Welder (which used to be a very pimp foil) and even imperial recruiter and loyal retainers. It will only take time before Imperial Seal will get axed like this too. Why hold on to these expensive cards if you are exposing yourself, not to risk, but to inevitable decline.

[thefringthing]

It's just a cheap way to pay judges for their volunteer work. If they would just cough up money for judges for once in their life, there wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that they are nickle and diming judges to death forcing them to trade/sell their judge foils to recoup their time/money investment into judging events.

Paying judges in cash would make them employees/contractors in many jurisdictions, resulting in legal hell for WotC.

[bruizar]

then pay in booster boxes which they can sell at drafts

[jandax]

little manila envelopes of cards are easier and more cost effective to transport than extra crates of booster boxes to hand out to staffers.

[TheArchitect]

What would you do if you had 4x Foil Jace and 4x Foil Tarmogoyf? It's damn desirable as a pimp to play with those cards, but they are too risky to hold because wizards WILL reprint them. Maybe not now, but they will do it. They did it to Goblin Welder (which used to be a very pimp foil) and even imperial recruiter and loyal retainers. It will only take time before Imperial Seal will get axed like this too.

If I bought 4 foil jaces and 4 foil Goyfs which are the exact same functionality of non-foils but 2-3x the price, money obviously wouldn't be an issue for me. I just bought a playset of FoW but I would be overjoyed if they reprinted them and made them a .50c card so everyone (including myself) could buy as many of them as they wanted.

Why hold on to these expensive cards if you are exposing yourself, not to risk, but to inevitable decline.

To play the game with them? If your not playing with them sell them so the price can go down slightly and the rest of us can use them.

If the playing the actual game matters less to you than your money you have invested your time/money in the wrong thing. Sell out of magic and buy baseball cards. Or stocks. Or property.


Also this is a pointless argument, besides the absurdly rare/costly P3K stuff, judge foils have barely effected the prices of any of the cards they are reprinting.


@Vengevine: There's a really inefficient modern "dredge" deck that plays 4 of him. Its weird reprinting him and vindicate though...

[mini1337s]

What would you do if you had 4x Foil Jace and 4x Foil Tarmogoyf? It's damn desirable as a pimp to play with those cards, but they are too risky to hold because wizards WILL reprint them. Maybe not now, but they will do it. They did it to Goblin Welder (which used to be a very pimp foil) and even imperial recruiter and loyal retainers. It will only take time before Imperial Seal will get axed like this too. Why hold on to these expensive cards if you are exposing yourself, not to risk, but to inevitable decline.

If you think Judge foils and reprints will ever catch up to original pack-foils, you are crazy. JTMS, Goyf, etc, reprinting those foils WILL NOT lower the value of the original packfoil. Playability will lower the value of a foil (as in Welder's case, though at $50, it's criminally under-priced).
People will pay a premium for Lorwyn planeswalkers for gods sake!

[nedleeds]

It's a game first and foremost. Go collect VS System cards if you want something that won't be reprinted.

Don't be so sure ...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Upper...47393155320725

[lordofthepit]

It's just a cheap way to pay judges for their volunteer work. If they would just cough up money for judges for once in their life, there wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that they are nickle and diming judges to death forcing them to trade/sell their judge foils to recoup their time/money investment into judging events. As long as there will be tournaments; staples will be getting the judge foil treatment thus increasing supply of cards that owe their value to being powerful and out of print.

I don't see this as a problem at all, and I doubt the majority of players and judges think so either.

Well, let me restate. There is a problem. The problem is that these cards are foil and usually modern-bordered, which is really ugly. But that's it.

[luckme10]

Has anybody been keeping track of Jace the Mind Sculptor Foil prices recently? According to the magic traders guide on ebay tracking it's at $386 a piece. However, Starcitygames has them for $800 in nm condition and has zero in stock; meanwhile, Channelfireball has them going for $1000 and is willing to give you $650 for a nm one out the door.

http://classic.magictraders.com/pric...nt-magic-foils
http://store.channelfireball.com/cat...or__foil/80805
http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardd...product=171772

The price history has it jumping from $200 from February 2012 up to $1000 today...
http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.ph...d+Sculptor&f=1
What is going on here?

[mini1337s]

Has anybody been keeping track of Jace the Mind Sculptor Foil prices recently? According to the magic traders guide on ebay tracking it's at $386 a piece. However, Starcitygames has them for $800 in nm condition and has zero in stock; meanwhile, Channelfireball has them going for $1000 and is willing to give you $650 for a nm one out the door.

http://classic.magictraders.com/pric...nt-magic-foils
http://store.channelfireball.com/cat...or__foil/80805
http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardd...product=171772

The price history has it jumping from $200 from February 2012 up to $1000 today...
http://ark42.com/mtg/pricehistory.ph...d+Sculptor&f=1
What is going on here?

It's an extremely desirable and playable card being bought up by panicking circlejerkers.

[useL]

Well, the value of Jace in stores is not the same as value between regular players. I have been trying to get rid of a jace at $800 with noone interested, thus I assume it is worth less. Noone in their right mind would pay $1000 to CHF for a jace.

[Lemnear]

Well, the value of Jace in stores is not the same as value between regular players. I have been trying to get rid of a jace at $800 with noone interested, thus I assume it is worth less. Noone in their right mind would pay $1000 to CHF for a jace.

Never. Foil Jaces = set of ex unlim. Power atm which is outright hilarious. I'm glad I sold my Foils.

[HammafistRoob]

Jace reprint maybe?

[r3dd09]

Never. Foil Jaces = set of ex unlim. Power atm which is outright hilarious. I'm glad I sold my Foils.

Same here. I made a pretty penny on my german foil Jace. I'll never think twice about keeping it.

[phazonmutant]

Foiling out my cube keeps getting harder and harder...

[Lemnear]

Same here. I made a pretty penny on my german foil Jace. I'll never think twice about keeping it.

Sold 3 german, 4 english ... Making a whooping 600% gain is nothing to laugh at. I can still play Delver if i'm in the mood for blue

[Kayradis]

Sold 3 german, 4 english ... Making a whooping 600% gain is nothing to laugh at. I can still play Delver if i'm in the mood for blue

Sold our foil Jace for over 400$ this fall.
Made a 100$++ profit on it.
Not regreting it (we still have 6 in the binder)

[Julian23]

Kayradis makes it sound as if he was selling his family's card or something, lol.

"We sold our Honda last fall, got a decent price for it. We...we don't regret it. We don't.... *sigh*."

[Kayradis]

Kayradis makes it sound as if he was selling his family's card or something, lol.

"We sold our Honda last fall, got a decent price for it. We...we don't regret it. We don't.... *sigh*."

After a second read I agree!
The "We" refers to me and my cardpool parter. We joined our resources after 2 years of borrowing cards to each other non stop. It seemed to be the logical option. Split the cost of staples we missed and increased the overall value of our collection.

Now, should I acquire a Honda? Just bought a Golf yesterday

[PirateKing]

Now, should I acquire a Honda? Just bought a Golf yesterday

Be careful that Volkswagen doesn't perform too well getting you to Modern tournaments, otherwise DCI might target the Golf with a ban.