All B/R update speculation.

[Gheizen64]

I would love to see Snow Duals!

I would love for that card to become semi-viable too. Problem is even with snow duals, that isn't good. Monocolors decks have it much better (no fetches) and still never run it.
You know what i'd love? If they really printed snow duals, i'd love to see:

Caldera wastes
Land
T: 1
T, sacrifice: destroy target snow-land

And then you'd have a reason to go monocolor again, 16 mountains (or swamps), 8 wastes gg.

[DragoFireheart]

Mana Drain is banned for power level, not price.

I don't know of any cards banned because of price.

[dontbiteitholmes]

I don't know of any cards banned because of price.

I don't think there are any anymore. At one point you could have made an argument for Mask.

[Derklord]

I'm pretty sure once properly introduced to the format, and with the barrier of entry lowered, most players wouldn't go back cracking packs for Standard cards...

You really think that many people that enjoy a format with a few viable decks that change ever couple of month would suddenly permanently jump to a extremly slowly changing format where there are tens of thousands of cards and multiple dozens of decks that you pretty much have to know to suceed in tournaments just because the "entry fee" drops down to 1500$?

And as Gheizen64 said, there is a number of staples they could reprint (first of which Force of Will, Wasteland, and Onslaught fetchlands) without breaking the RL if they were serious about helping people play Eternal formats and not just shed some crocodile tears about it "Sorry guys, we really tried, but no can do. Not our fault, really."

Cheap FoW & Wasteland yet rediculously expansive duals? Yay, more merfolk players!

Reprinting just the stuff off the reserved list in a amount large enough amount to significantly lower the prices would definitly tilt the format, but I agree with you, they could reprint stuff off the RL and make mush money with legacy. My point still stands, the only reason WotC isn't making (larger amounts of) money with legacy is because they are stupid.

Oh, and they could lower the prices of duals by making monocolored decks stronger - but MaRo apparantly jumps onto a chair in fear when he smells a card possible attacking manabases.

[DragoFireheart]

I don't think there are any anymore. At one point you could have made an argument for Mask.

Imagine if WotC started banning cards because they exceeded a certain price threshold.

Oh boy...

[Zinch]

Karakas, anyone?

With the new legend rules change and IF Theros is "legend centered" as it seems, maybe WotC decides it is too opresive (if you don't play wasteland is very hard to deal with a land)

[Holly]

Are you kidding us?

[Zinch]

Are you kidding us?

I don't think it's that farfetched considering this:

"The most notable change for Modern, Legacy, Vintage, and Commander will be that legendary lands will be much more attractive to run in decks. While they still suffer from the drawback of not being able to have more than one in play if you draw multiples, it does make it much easier for decks to run singleton or even a few copies of powerful legendary permanents such as Gaea's Cradle, Karakas, Academy Ruins, or Mox Opal. We will keep a close lookout for the power of these lands in Modern, Legacy, and Vintage, and trust that Commander Rules Committee (who have been previously informed of this change) will keep a lookout for the power level in that format, as well as the power level of commanders that are traditionally difficult to deal with, such as Uril, the Miststalker. It is not currently expected that these rules changes will bring about any changes to the Modern, Legacy, or Vintage Banned and Restricted lists, but we will be keeping a close eye on the formats between the release of Magic 2014 Core Set and Theros, and we will make any changes if they are deemed necessary."

(Source: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...y/feature/248f)

[dunk]

Karakas, anyone?

With the new legend rules change and IF Theros is "legend centered" as it seems, maybe WotC decides it is too opresive (if you don't play wasteland is very hard to deal with a land)

facepalm...

[Darkenslight]

Karakas, anyone?

With the new legend rules change and IF Theros is "legend centered" as it seems, maybe WotC decides it is too opresive (if you don't play wasteland is very hard to deal with a land)

I'd be far more worried about Cradle's prolonged existence in the format, really.

[TsumiBand]

I'd be far more worried about Cradle's prolonged existence in the format, really.

What deck does it matter in that doesn't already generate too much mana than it should because it's full of Elves, though? Does it power-up Bant Rebel-still in some frightening and unwholesome way?

[Koby]

Karakas, anyone?

With the new legend rules change and IF Theros is "legend centered" as it seems, maybe WotC decides it is too opresive (if you don't play wasteland is very hard to deal with a land)

This would hold water if Wizards ever decided to design and develop cards for Eternal.

oh wait...

[kusumoto]

What deck does it matter in that doesn't already generate too much mana than it should because it's full of Elves, though? Does it power-up Bant Rebel-still in some frightening and unwholesome way?

Obviously Cheeri0s is going to dominate the format.

[Zombie]

[scrubmode]
Ban Leyline of "I'm playing degenerate combo and become immune to interactive cards for no cost on T0"
[/scrubmode]

Seriously though, that card just feels so profoundly shitty. Then again blanket shutdowns typically are. At least they're usually used to shut down degeneracy instead of enabling it.

[dontbiteitholmes]

In before ban S&T ITT because of latest SCG results.

In before separate thread about banning S&T specifically mentioning SCG results.

In before existing thread about banning S&T gets bumped.

In before 2 threads that don't specifically mention banning S&T but are obviously about banning S&T.

[Koby]

... play more Thalia or Canonist. FFS, it's like no one can read what cards do. Even Notion Thief > Enter the Infinite.

[Norm]

... play more Thalia or Canonist. FFS, it's like no one can read what cards do. Even Notion Thief > Enter the Infinite.

Notion Thief is definitely not > Enter The Infinite in a deck with 12+ cantrips. They'll enter, you'll draw most of your deck if not all, then they'll kill you with any cantrip or just pass the turn and you die if you can't kill them right away.

[Koby]

Notion Thief is definitely not > Enter The Infinite in a deck with 12+ cantrips. They'll enter, you'll draw most of your deck if not all, then they'll kill you with any cantrip or just pass the turn and you die if you can't kill them right away.

Seems like a deck choice error to me then, if you can't win with your deck in your hand, I feels bad for you :D

[Megadeus]

Yeah Canonist and Thalia are awesome vs that SnT deck. People dont play enough of them honestly. They think that 4 thoughtseize is good enough. And then the opponent drops a leyline

[Norm]

Seems like a deck choice error to me then, if you can't win with your deck in your hand, I feels bad for you :D

How many decks running Notion Thief can win in one turn? It's not very likely, but I suppose in some random UB combo shell it could get there...

Not to mention the fact that you may never get that turn. If enter draws your deck then you're actually just dead on the spot.

I stand by my response to your bold statement. Notion Thief is not > Enter The Infinite

EDIT: And no bannings aimed at SNT are in order :)