All B/R update speculation.

[from Cairo]

When is the next announcement? It wasn't supposed to be 16th July?

Announcement Date: July 8, 2013

Standard, Modern, Extended, Legacy, Vintage:
No changes

[DragoFireheart]

Dragon Maze was mostly garbage from what I saw. Wait 6 more months or so for the next set to come out.

[swoop]

can someone get Stoneforge Mystic banned? that shit is crazy yo

[(nameless one)]

can someone get Stoneforge Mystic banned? that shit is crazy yo

Dude, how much aspirins did you take today?

[Dan Turner]

can someone get Stoneforge Mystic banned? that shit is crazy yo

yo is that shit crazy...yo smokin

[swoop]

I'm kinda just fed up with everyone in every meta where I play packing stoneforge combo.

pretty annoying

[lordofthepit]

I'm kinda just fed up with everyone in every meta where I play packing stoneforge combo.

pretty annoying

Play Punishing Fire, never lose another game to a Stoneforge Mystic.

[Fossil4182]

Does anyone believe the printing of Show and Tell as a Judge Promo says anything about DCI's intentions regarding Show and Tell as a potential card to ban? The idea being that the DCI wouldn't print Show & Tell as a Judge Promo if they were planning on banning it soon.

[Lemnear]

Does anyone believe the printing of Show and Tell as a Judge Promo says anything about DCI's intentions regarding Show and Tell as a potential card to ban? The idea being that the DCI wouldn't print Show & Tell as a Judge Promo if they were planning on banning it soon.

Jude FOIL Survival of the Fittest

[Fossil4182]

Jude FOIL Survival of the Fittest

I believe that's a generalization and not an apt comparison. The JP Survival of the Fittest released at PT Austin in Oct of 2009. Survival of the Fittest was banned in December of 2010 - due to the interactions with Vengevine and friends, and insufficient or very limited ways to interact with the deck. (Not to mention is was borderline dominate)

[Lemnear]

I believe that's a generalization and not an apt comparison. The JP Survival of the Fittest released at PT Austin in Oct of 2009. Survival of the Fittest was banned in December of 2010 - due to the interactions with Vengevine and friends, and insufficient or very limited ways to interact with the deck. (Not to mention is was borderline dominate)

I know; I just pointed that the printing as a Judge FOIL doesn't prevent a banning in the Short future, depending on cards which see print.

Dunno, maybe WotC prints an insane Permament in Theros which will get S&T banned or they just pull off crap like the "Gentlemans Agreement"

[Zombie]

I just want to see it gone, reason be damned. Though if Emralolol, Griseltard and Omniderp aren't enough already...

[Dice_Box]

Griselbrand, the latest go at making a playable Necropotence. They really like that card don't they?

As for SnT. Yes I hate it, I would love to see it go. But I do not know when it will be pushed over the edge and banned. I mean if a 15/15, your lose six cards and die is not enough to do it, what will push it over the edge?

[Darkenslight]

Griselbrand, the latest go at making a playable Necropotence. They really like that card don't they?

As for SnT. Yes I hate it, I would love to see it go. But I do not know when it will be pushed over the edge and banned. I mean if a 15/15, your lose six cards and die is not enough to do it, what will push it over the edge?

A U-costing enchantment that says, "You win the game if this is on the field and you control an Island."

[Lemnear]

A U-costing enchantment that says, "You win the match if this is on the field and you control an Island."

Fixed

[apple713]

with the rise of S&T decks, the printing of abrupt decay, and the extensive grave hate available to all decks (surgical extraction, rest in peace, Deathrite shaman), would it be safe to say that survival should be unbanned now?

I never agreed with it to be banned in the first place, but it seems as though its critical turn for winning was t4 at best. This seems rather slow for the current format. Especially with all the emrakuls and griselbrands going around. ANT is T2-4 (i think) S&T is somewhere between T2-5, High tide is t4+.

[Gheizen64]

with the rise of S&T decks, the printing of abrupt decay, and the extensive grave hate available to all decks (surgical extraction, rest in peace, Deathrite shaman), would it be safe to say that survival should be unbanned now?

I never agreed with it to be banned in the first place, but it seems as though its critical turn for winning was t4 at best. This seems rather slow for the current format. Especially with all the emrakuls and griselbrands going around. ANT is T2-4 (i think) S&T is somewhere between T2-5, High tide is t4+.

Survival isn't a combo card, survival go into disruptive decks with lots of creatures like maverick and give them a combo finish. Even without combo finish, it's easy to turn it into super-card advantage. The card may not break the format again, but it would get instantly played in top decks everywhere.

[Lemnear]

Survival is a repetitive tutor, a toolbox and potential combo-engine for the games #1 powercreep cardtype, all in one card.

[Julian23]

I never agreed with it to be banned in the first place, but it seems as though its critical turn for winning was t4 at best.

While I would also enjoy the unbanning of Survival, I feel i should note that the later lists with Lion Eye's Diamond could put 12 power of hasty Vengevine into play on turn2.

[Megadeus]

While I would also enjoy the unbanning of Survival, I feel i should note that the later lists with Lion Eye's Diamond could put 12 power of hasty Vengevine into play on turn2.

I fucking lol'd. I hope that it gets unbanned just so I can start cracking LEDs in my green decks lol.