I even covered it in some Report afaik, but that Line of Play requires a total of 9 mana and enough life to cast Ad Nauseam. Lets consider your starting Hand contains 7 Cards, one is a wish, so you Need to generate 9 mana and hellbent off 6 Cards. That's pretty impossible to "kill quick" under those conditions.
Think about the matchups where you board out Infernal
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hi ! quick question how do you deal with maverick (even there not many maverick anymore) if mother is available and thalia or gaddock is on the board ?
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I'm leaving for the invitational after work today. Playing the list I posted on the last page, I put it in the opening post for reference.
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Played basically this list -1 xantid +1 shattering spree at my local weekly last night. People at my store love to play chalice of the void and no one is really on reanimator or show and tell so I throw in shattering spree for these. Played against death and taxes, TES mirror, tezzeret and shardless bant. Thoughtseize was definitely better than duress in my meta especially against decks like bant with a mix of creature and spell disruption. The life loss wasn't really an issue except in two cases. The first one I was too low for a realistic win anyway against lethal on board with a chalice on zero in play. The other time was a very in depth past in flames turn against shardless bant that had me down to 1 life and the line could have been to grapeshot his team and strip the batterskull from his hand but my brainstorm hit the LED and I had exactly enough to tendrils him.
I especially like the thoughtseizes now that most of the blue decks are packing meddling mages and canonists in the board. Getting foil lorwyn thoughtseizes is going to be a pain though.
I'm considering 2 TS 1 Therapy Main, 2 Therapy SB for Invitational. Addition of MM has certainly caused problems, but I'm hesitant. Hopefully can find the 3rd xantid before round 1.
Small report from out LGS in Berlin. I piloted my mentioned list and convinced my teammate to do the same. All mental notes
Round 1 - Florian with UWR Delver
Game 1:
I lost the Dice and keep a Medium hand. I Fake UWR Delver myself while he Ponders and finally reveals my hand with Probe. I infernal for a second RoF as he Drops Delver. I'm not patient enough here and start battling through FoW, Daze, 2 Stifle, Wasteland and shit. In the end, I'm one mana short of killing him, looking for help off a Brainstorm aka LED or any Ritual but brick. I'm annoyed the whole game because he whines about me slow-playing all the time. Carsten Kotter gently explains him why TES need a bit more time to be played than "Delver, go!"
Game 2:
I drop enought Goblins turn 1 that make it before he can topdeck an out
Game 3:
Time is called immediately and we're asked to draw. I refuse and say I can make it! My opponent laughs exactly 2 turns, before I disable his defense and have enough mana to Grapeshot his face off!
1-0
Round 2 - Carsten Kotter with ANT
Game 1:
This match is as equally annoying as exciting for us and I lost the dice again. He's an awesome guy and gives me Lotus Petal, 2 Dark Rituals and Ad Nauseam among crap for my starting 7. We joke about the importance of the 3rd Mox ... I have enough mana for PIF and Grapeshot showboat. He's mocking me a bit about IF I can kill him but stifles my joy, picking up his cards.
Game 2:
I'm in a gambling mood and keep a Medium hand because of knowing his Secret SB tech. I get dismembered by Duress and Therapy with him still able to finish me in turn 4 with an overload of Rituals, LED and Infernal. Pretty nice flow
Game 3:
I'm a smartass and float infernal + LED ontop while he Fires off a flurry of discard. A drawstep and a Ponder which was left is enough to assemble Ad Nauseam. Awesome guy, 'nuff said
2-0
Round 3 - Moe with Grixis Delver
Game 1:
I sculpt a 8-carder facing lethal and start fighting though Dazes, FoW and Stifle dismembering his whole grip of 7. he has 1 card left as I put ToA on the Stack ... Stifle #2 x(
Game 2:
I make 10 Goblins turn 2 and he's able to wipe them in time. I follow up with Ad Nauseam and Grapeshot his remaining life
Game 3:
I drop turn 1 Xantid and 12 Goblins. He wipes them once more with electrocute after pondering and eating a swing. I Wish for Grapeshot to finish him the following turn but Young Pyromancer + Cabal Therapy strips me off that option. Another Wish for ToA but I can't get enough mana and storm going before he's able to fight the Rituals and Pyromancer + friends kill me while I eat Wastelands
2-1
Round 4 - A polite guy (whichs name I sadly can't Remember) with Death & Taxes
Game 1:
Sat side to side in round 1 so there's no secret. I win my first diceroll today, Ponder off a Gemstone, see LED, keep. He Drops turn 1 Mother but never get a second turn ... Only ToA ...
Game 2:
He does land, go. I do, land, durdle, Grapeshot!
3-1
End of show!
Propper:
- Grapeshot
- able to pilot the deck after an exhausting day at work
- meeting Titus again. Order his e-Book goddamnit! ;)
- won the storm-mirror
- peeple still boarding Rest in Peace against me
Blopper:
- EtW failed to deliver twice
- no Secret SB tech vs Carsten
- lost a match
- me for casting Grapeshot against innocent people
- boarding in Decays < Turn 1 kill
Ended up 2nd and take a Shockland home as price. Thx for your attention dear ladies and gentleman!
Last edited by Lemnear; 10-25-2013 at 05:04 AM.
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Maverick Player here (picking up TES), Maverick's hate (with few, bizarre sideboard exceptions) sits at 2CMC. If you can silence-walk through that turn (and capitalize on that with land drops or manipulation) then wonderful. If not, then try to set up permanent mana sources so that you can play through a potential Thalia. Laying Chrome Mox and Petals in anticipation of Thalia is fine. Beware of Wastelands though, naturally.
As far as getting through T1 Mother, t2 Thalia - you're in a rough spot. If you have a Massacre or something of the sort then sweet. Otherwise, you might just be trying to rough your way through Thalia.
Congrats on your finish Lemnear! How worked out the Cabal Theraphys for you, had you been satisfied with it, or did you wish,
it was a Thoughtseize instead in some spots? Further had the side Tropical helped for casting Abrupt Decays and Xantids consitently?
Looking forward to see a Heart of Storm Vol. 6
Greetz
I casted Therapy 4 (maybe 5) times that day: twice with Probe for a 1-for-1 and a 1-for-2 trade each and 2 times more as blanks, naming the only card that could have stopped me in those situations, missed both times and proceed to kill my opponent. Didn't miss Thoughtseize or the second SB Discard at all. Casting mid-size EtW's + getting free mindtwists off your graveyard is nasty
I never ran the SB Tropical and Bryant cutted it this week for the invitational. I'm the wrong Person to ask. :/
HotS Vol. 6 is scheduled for december, because I have a lot of work atm and can't even test enough for BoM, not to talk about playing tourneys and write reports. I started making notes yesterday with timed rounds, but with my first round opponent bitching the whole time while I was counting storm and mana in the double-digits about me taking too long to think, I got really pissed and stopped taking serious notes. All gou can read in the small report above is from fresh memory only, because I typed the report on my trainride home.
Small remark about R1 G3: I noticed he trimmed his removal in game 2, so I tried to next level him with Xantid in game 3 which I successfully landed T1 and negated his grip of 2 counterspells for my turn 2 Ad Nauseam ^_^
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on my side i was less efficient than lemnear
juste took the same decklist as bryant.
Won't talk about dice because i lost them all
Round 1 - strange reanimator / combo .
game 1 turn1 go for 14 goblin with no FOW. he cast griselbrand on his turn and draw 21 cards to find his own combo (strange deck ^^) but nothing. go to game 2
game 2 i've kept a hand to win if i draw tutor or ad nauseam. but right now i've nothing not brainstorm just dozen a mana if i want. he choose to startwith entomb. I cabal him with exhume stuff. my turn i drew IT. for adnaseam and the game
1-0
Round 2 - Goblin
he just say to me that he use to play storm without knowing that i'm playing storm ... ah ah ah he just add that he stop because he find it ennoying to play alone huhu
Game 1 - he plays caven name goblin go. go thoughseize on warren go. play goblin ringleader check 4 card and only kiki show his face. my turn adnaseaum for the kill it was quite tricky because i went to 2 to find enough ressource and all silence show their face
Game 2 - he did the same i try a brainstorm even i could make a turn 1 with chain in hand in case of thalia. he try a goblin his turn. I kill him on my turn.
2 - 0
Round 3 - TT
Game 1. Delver go. I've a hand to win probe him and see the spell snare (what !!) long time i haven't see this card ... so with my hand daze and pierce proof i can't do nothing. my hand was led *2 dark rit *2 rof * 2 BW*1. i've never drew any silence / discard during 5 turn
Game 2 was quite better but never find any tutor after i've thoughseize snare + cabal pierce + silence in hand + play 1 time ponder 2 time brainstorm ... bad luck is bad luck sometimes
2-1
Roun 4 - Patriot
Game 1 thoughseize him his ponder because he has almost nothing in hand and at least that will be hard for him to find counterspell. his turn delver go. i brainstorm. land drop and go. on delver un reveal daze ... go and add a second delver. Try to find a last mana source to go and go through daze now ..... on his second delver he drew pierce ... dam ! couldn't find any cabal and become low in life on my side. he add grim lavamancer on his side finnaly found 1 cabal go daze. + silence him. the main problem is that i'm a 5. i miss 1 mana to tendrill so the only solution is grapeshoot at least to clean the board. i kill the grim he answered by using it. i'm at 3 and i kill all his delver + 4 on him. i'm at 3 his turn he drew lightning bolt...
Game 2 : i have slow hand but keepable. i probe him i see a daze. pyroblast and few other thing and no land ... in fact 2 wasteland. ive to use my own land so brainstorm go i take another land from it he wast my land. i drop another one he waste it. and no more land on my side now we are in mode "top deck for a land" he drew volcanic delver go i drew a golden land + chrome. try to put chrome he force it ... try to brainstorm daze ... i just can't play. at the end in my cimetary you could find 2 chrome 2 petal 3 land and no way to win on my side. i've to grapeshoot everytning to maybe win ... i'm at 5 again he's at 9.... and he draw geist ... and me adnaseam with one missing mana to cast it and try to find the very last solution ...
2-2
I guess i didn't keep the right hand in game 3 and 4 anyway it was fun to play.
See you at the BOM ^^ and sorry for my english (i'm french ^^)
Head up Jay! Shit happens...
Another small remark: Didn't take a single mulligan the whole day! Maybe should have done in R2 G2 but the hand felt solid against discard.
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