[Deck] ANT (Ad Nauseam Tendrils)

[MTG Junkie]

http://bazaar-of-moxen.com/en_magic-...k-bom-top.html

Put a big on my face! Thanks for the link! Awesome to see Storm do so well.

JamieW89: Iv been on this thread for a long time and always appreciate your posts. Congrats!

[Mindlash]

I'm guessing there are typos. AN in Timo's SB? Also I believe the Preordains in the list are Brainstorms. Otherwise I would have to drastically alter my world view.

The Ad Nauseam in the Sideboard was his second Chain of Vapor.

[Lans89]

Jamie had ad nauseam main when he 6-1'd the trial, but for the main event he switched ad nauseam and empty. He is not the only one who argues that ad nauseam could be moved to the sideboard. The leyline is indeed a singleton answer versus discard etc, but also a nice tool for the mirror which might be common during tournaments.

And yeah those preordains in the other list must be brainstorms.. I can't imagine being succesfull without it! But last BoM I was also confused about the list with 3 Ad-N :P

[Dia_Bot]

Does anyone know if Grzegorz Jezierski will write a report ? I'm interested to know his insights in the wishboard he used.

[Fatal]

I will ask him ;) his my buddy

[Dia_Bot]

I will ask him ;) his my buddy

Thanks :)

[Fatal]

There gonna be a interview in polish on http://psychatog.pl/ for sure, he don't want to give a promise until he will be sure that he can realize them - that's about the article/report.

[Dia_Bot]

There gonna be a interview in polish on http://psychatog.pl/ for sure, he don't want to give a promise until he will be sure that he can realize them - that's about the article/report.

Thanks for the info. I'll try to understand the interview with the use of google translate once it's up (since I can't really read polish) and will be looking out for any info regarding the (potential) report.

[MTG Junkie]

1 Flex,normally the 3rd Wish
2 Burning Wish
1 Tendrils
1 PIF
4 Probe
4 Ponder
4 Infernal Tutor
4 Therapy
3 Duress

4 Dark Ritual
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Brainstorm
1 Ad Nauseam

4 Lotus Petal
4 LED

1 Badlands
1 Volcanic Island
2 Sea
1 Island
1 Swamp
8 Fetch
1 Flex,normally the 9th fetch.

lately Iv been playing the 2nd Swamp (double Island sucks in the combo turn) and a Top in the flex spots. With a Board of,

2 Dark Confidant
4 Dread Of Night
3 Swarm
1 Bayou
1 Grim Tutor
1 Empty
1 Tendrils
1 IGG
1 Sweeper

I think all the other 1 of s are terrible so i stopped playing them.
I stopped playing bounce as well. Sometimes your sculpting and have to waste it to keep sculpting.

Yet with all these changes i cant bring myself to play a non Wish version,why? lol

[Dia_Bot]

Yet with all these changes i cant bring myself to play a non Wish version,why? lol

Haha I've come to the same conclusion.
I actually do play a very similar list to yours with the only differences being:
-2 dark confidant, -1 DoN,-1 bayou, +1 sweeper, +2 CoV, +1 meltdown (painter is a deck in my meta..).
I still like cov to get rid of leylines and such.

[Patrunkenphat7]

Massacre is much better than Dread of Night right now imo. The Death and Taxes decks bring in Canonists that you need double DoN to kill. There are also some Meddling Mages running around. Mother of Runes Teeg decks aren't especially popular.

[Jeff]

I agree, I much prefer Massacre. How are people bringing in Dread of Night sideboarding against D&T? Their sideboards are so screwy that they could easily have Mindbreak Trap or Leyline in addition to all of the hate bears. I prefer Massacre because it actually kills Phyrexian Revoker and Ethersworn Canonist as well as Thalia. Of course, Massacre makes Ad Nauseam worse, and since they can also bring in Rest in Peace, you have to keep in Ad Nauseam in case they shut off Past in Flames. It's can be a really awkward guessing game trying to figure out what you need to be playing against.

[MTG Junkie]

Massacre seems fine,iv played a one of in the board before. Double Dread of Night locks them out of the game. All the other stuff is easyer to play around without all the bears.

[Jeff]

I jsut don't like needing Double Dread to win. If I draw Massacre, I'm probably winning, if I draw Dread, I need to draw something else too.

[Koby]

I still like Virtue's Ruin best of all, because it doesn't care about whether they are x/1 or x/2, and it kills KotR just the same.

Most importantly, it still kills Canonist/Thalia when they are equipped with Sword of X&Y.

I imagine cards to bring in are: Chain of Vapor (upto 3), Abrupt Decay (2 max), and 1-2 Virtue's Ruin depending on your SB configuration.

[jjflipped]

Why aren't we just casting Toxic Deluge?

[Koby]

Why aren't we just casting Toxic Deluge?

Because it doesn't come in Korean obviously. What deck other than White hate-bears would we want a sweeper to begin with?

[Namida]

Because it doesn't come in Korean obviously. What deck other than White hate-bears would we want a sweeper to begin with?

I have five Japanese ones in front of me right now. They didn't print Commander 2013 in Korean? That's madness.

Anyway, I like Toxic Deluge because it's a little worse at killing the hatebears you care about for the added benefit of being able to kill everything in any matchup should you desire to do so. I think the card is only good if you're playing Burning Wish though because you don't want to cast this card more than once (so you don't want to draw it more than once), and I'm still not sure that Burning Wish is where you want to be playing this deck.

[Patrunkenphat7]

Virtue's Ruin is a pretty unrealistic card in a lot of situations. It costs 4 mana to kill Thalia, and D+T is running 4 Wasteland and 4 Rishadan Port.

[Koby]

Virtue's Ruin is a pretty unrealistic card in a lot of situations. It costs 4 mana to kill Thalia, and D+T is running 4 Wasteland and 4 Rishadan Port.

All arguments for Toxic Deluge and Virtue's Ruin are effectively equal. They both cost and would equally cost a literal million mana against Thalia.