[Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

[End3r000]

Where is the like button when you need it. Gitaxian Probe is amazing and I do not understand why people keep trying to cut it. There is not a single mu where I would board it out.

[Ivan Ferreiro]

Well. Against Maverick I lost first game because I missplayed and the other was Thalia + Gaddok. I had one decay (casted with a Tropical in the sideboard) but wasnt enough

[Lemnear]

Well. Against Maverick I lost first game because I missplayed and the other was Thalia + Gaddok. I had one decay (casted with a Tropical in the sideboard) but wasnt enough

Duress can't battle Teeg, Thalia, Meddling Mage or Cannonist ... that's the most important reason we cutted it from the deck. My whole durdling with options like the 4 EtW in the 75 aimed at dropping threats beford Thalia and friends can lock us out of the game, ergo doing 2 things: render their hate useless while turning your Hand into a threat asap

[mario91234]

Chain of Vapor

Is this card good anymore? It seems like leyline is at an all time low and in the only matchup which people bring it in, (Show and Tell) I don't even find it good. I'm still on the 4x silence plan. Given this, should I cut the 2x chains of vapor for something like 2x Carpet? Thus, I could now board into decays vs UWR delver.

Thoughts?

[davelin]

Chain of Vapor

Is this card good anymore? It seems like leyline is at an all time low and in the only matchup which people bring it in, (Show and Tell) I don't even find it good. I'm still on the 4x silence plan. Given this, should I cut the 2x chains of vapor for something like 2x Carpet? Thus, I could now board into decays vs UWR delver.

Thoughts?

I wouldn't leave home without them. The casting cost of decay just makes it too awkward to reliably count on them.

[Lemnear]

I wouldn't leave home without them. The casting cost of decay just makes it too awkward to reliably count on them.

Ever tried to remove a Cannonist from an UWR deck with Chain? Pointless...

Decays are much better than chain atm

[Final Fortune]

Ever tried to remove a Cannonist from an UWR deck with Chain? Pointless...

Decays are much better than chain atm

So true, I wouldn't bother with Chain of Vapour unless Thalia was ubiquitous, which is the only hatebear Decay falls short on.

[Bryant Cook]

I was talking with Royce yesterday, we decided to keep three Swarm. Which means I'm likely going to live with one Chain of Vapor, that doesn't mean I wish there wasn't a second.

[Lemnear]

I was talking with Royce yesterday, we decided to keep three Swarm. Which means I'm likely going to live with one Chain of Vapor, that doesn't mean I wish there wasn't a second.

It may depends on how many peeps netdeck the recent successful S&T lists without Leyline in the near future to estimate the value of Xantid/CoV for the upcoming weeks. Local meta shifted to Elves and TNN mirrors, 4 example.

1 CoV is pretty random imo, as I needed to find it within an Ad Nauseam to finish my opponent with Leyline in play. With only a single Chain remaining, I don't see it fullfilling it's duty (to get reliable rid of Leyline) anymore, as it was (only) more valuable than Decay vs. Thalia and Leylines.



Edit: Hope that makes sense; daddy's drunk lol

[Jay_Gatz]

Would a revoke or a hull breach be better than a single chain then?

[Bryant Cook]

It may depends on how many peeps netdeck the recent successful S&T lists without Leyline in the near future to estimate the value of Xantid/CoV for the upcoming weeks. Local meta shifted to Elves and TNN mirrors, 4 example.

1 CoV is pretty random imo, as I needed to find it within an Ad Nauseam to finish my opponent with Leyline in play. With only a single Chain remaining, I don't see it fullfilling it's duty (to get reliable rid of Leyline) anymore, as it was (only) more valuable than Decay vs. Thalia and Leylines.



Edit: Hope that makes sense; daddy's drunk lol

You could always Past in Flames a (Hellbent) Tutor back to find Chain of Vapor and win - I've done this. Although, at that point, Silence may've done this job barring they can't counter Silence on their turn (They could've been covered in Bees or tapped out). I typically look at the Chain of Vapor as the third Decay that can answer Leyline while being worse against Counterbalance, I refuse to be cold to Leyline.

Would a revoke or a hill breach be better than a single chain then?

You cant board that in to hit Thalia.

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[Bryant Cook]

I took third in a one hundred and eighty-seven person event yesterday. Took home some Tropical Islands and a few Flooded Strands, not a bad day. I played incredibly tight, I feel like I was playing better than I normally do. The list was awesome, I used the Thoughtseize more than I did the Chain of Vapor for what it's worth, leaving me thinking that the list is right. I didn't face many blue-based tempo decks until towards the end, I didn't see Carpet as much as I'd like to. That was a little inconclusive. I may write a report, we'll see how lazy I'm feeling today.

[Lemnear]

Dropping a few lines would be nice for the SB topic. Congratz anyways

[Deviruchi]

Congratulations. It is good that you feel confident again. I missed that feeling in your previous posts. It will be great if you find time to write down your impressions. I think lately about returning to TES. Each well-written piece of text will be invaluable.

[Pelikanudo]

You could always Past in Flames a (Hellbent) Tutor back to find Chain of Vapor and win - I've done this. Although, at that point, Silence may've done this job barring they can't counter Silence on their turn (They could've been covered in Bees or tapped out). I typically look at the Chain of Vapor as the third Decay that can answer Leyline while being worse against Counterbalance, I refuse to be cold to Leyline.
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I think that with that side vs Thalia Decks it is ok to side in 2 A.DEcay 1T.seize. for 3 silence. Of course if having CoV will let 1 other more space, wich could be? Is it really neccesary?
However vs Combo in the form of Expected Sided Leylines - I just think boarding CoV main gets worse the base, that's why I mainly prefer Revoke Or H.Breach over CoV. Agree?

Will test these 75 on next tournament, depending on advice, now I don't have time to test and just use a guideline, by here I see complete dedicated testers - so thanks.
Please when have time update openning post with Side Instructions. thanks again.

[Lemnear]

I think that with that side vs Thalia Decks it is ok to side in 2 A.DEcay 1T.seize. for 3 silence. Of course if having CoV will let 1 other more space, wich could be? Is it really neccesary?
However vs Combo in the form of Expected Sided Leylines - I just think boarding CoV main gets worse the base, that's why I mainly prefer Revoke Or H.Breach over CoV. Agree?

Will test these 75 on next tournament, depending on advice, now I don't have time to test and just use a guideline, by here I see complete dedicated testers - so thanks.
Please when have time update openning post with Side Instructions. thanks again.

You'll board -4 Therapy, -1 EtW, +1 CoV, +3 Xantid, +1 Trop against Leyline with Bryant's list and Ad Nauseam into CoV or create a PIF loop afterwards to gain access to the CoV without having a shitload of dead cards in your 60

Will test the setup Wednesday and go for a bigger tourney next week (will cover that one in HotS 6, as I had only written about the BoM and the development of the deck during the last 6 Weeks so far, as I have spoilered here)

[davelin]

I took third in a one hundred and eighty-seven person event yesterday. Took home some Tropical Islands and a few Flooded Strands, not a bad day. I played incredibly tight, I feel like I was playing better than I normally do. The list was awesome, I used the Thoughtseize more than I did the Chain of Vapor for what it's worth, leaving me thinking that the list is right. I didn't face many blue-based tempo decks until towards the end, I didn't see Carpet as much as I'd like to. That was a little inconclusive. I may write a report, we'll see how lazy I'm feeling today.

Well done! Would love to hear a report esp with the new changes.

[Bryant Cook]

I've started the report, it'll be up in the next day or so. As for the sideboard guide, it'll be up when I can get around to it.

[5doorfury]

What are peoples thoughts on EtW as a win condition with the surge of TNN hate showing up in people's decks? Golgari Charm and zealous persecution seem like scary cards against us (forcing the Tendrils plan). Thoughts?

(Also, please note that I don't have experience testing against these cards, just thinking about it from a theoretical standpoint.)