[Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

[Asthereal]

I don't know if you've read the last page or so of the thread, but why not just run Pyroblast? I usually side in various wish targets based on the matchup, ETW is bad against miracles - swap it out. Ad Nauseam isnt great against burn, swap out ETW for PIF (I dont always do this, just sometimes).

Wait, what? Ad Nauseam isn't great, so you swap ETW?
Hasty post?

[tride]

Wait, what? Ad Nauseam isn't great, so you swap ETW?
Hasty post?

Ad Nauseam isn't great so you side in another storm engine in place of ETW, so PiF doesn't make Ad Nauseam even worst. I used to do this when IGG was around.

[mario91234]

Im running a single pyroblast for the invitational and the deal breaker was having an out to MM. Being able to ad naus on mm on wish, natural tendrils on tutor or play around it otherwise makes me want the utility. Additionally, we lack a solid answer to v.clique. Unfortunately, this is the worst card vs flusterstorm.


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[Bryant Cook]

Wait, what? Ad Nauseam isn't great, so you swap ETW?
Hasty post?

I meant what I said.

Im running a single pyroblast for the invitational and the deal breaker was having an out to MM. Being able to ad naus on mm on wish, natural tendrils on tutor or play around it otherwise makes me want the utility. Additionally, we lack a solid answer to v.clique. Unfortunately, this is the worst card vs flusterstorm.

Why only the one? Couldn't find another? Lack of fourty-six cents (51 after tax)?

[phazonmutant]

I don't know if you've read the last page or so of the thread, but why not just run Pyroblast? I usually side in various wish targets based on the matchup, ETW is bad against miracles - swap it out. Ad Nauseam isnt great against burn, swap out ETW for PIF (I dont always do this, just sometimes).

I have, Pyroblast sounds like a good card to test. I'm definitely curious to see how it performs.

Isn't it a problem swapping in the Tendrils if there's only one in the 75? Same with PiF, I would think.

[mario91234]

I have 2 Bryant, thanks though. Reasoning for only 1 is that it is: A last minute change, B; haven't played with the card in years, C; we barely played with the card back when flusterstorm was the bees knees. It's also the 5th card vs Counterbalance and adding more cards to the sb that come in have diminishing returns on our deck at that point.

[Bryant Cook]

I highly recommend two, but if you don't want five cards for the Counterbalance match-up, I would cut an Abrupt Decay first.

[mario91234]

I'm playing more silences than you are now so my sb is occupied by a second discard spell. I would likely play the first copy of carpet over the 2nd pyroblast in that slot, however i do not have enough practice to get off the silence/thoughtseize crutch. I do distinctly remember having pyroblast in hand at times wishing it was simply any other protection spell from the past additionally. Can't really expect that much miracles anyhow.


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[Jay_Gatz]

Wait, what? Ad Nauseam isn't great, so you swap ETW? Hasty post?

Past turn like 2-3 as nauseam is uncastable against a bolt/fireblast deck

[Asthereal]

On the draw past turn 1 actually. So I thought perhaps we should swap Ad Nauseam for another storm enige. But Bryant probably meant to keep it anyway, and since EtW also isn't brilliant past turn 2-3, he wants Ad Nauseam for the fast kill and Past in Flames for the slow kill. I didn't get that when I posted last night. Anyway, this would advocate for keeping Ill-Gotten Gains, so we still have a graveyard engine to Wish for. But I guess that depends on how much sideboard space you have left. I encounter Burn very often, so I would be willing to sacrifice a slot I would otherwise use for Miracles.

[Pelikanudo]

I highly recommend two, but if you don't want five cards for the Counterbalance match-up, I would cut an Abrupt Decay first.

Ok, i will test those pyroblast for next tournament, they really convinced me for at least miracles and batle M.M., not by the moment IoK.

I'd like to know:

How would you side vs Sneak and Show, OmniShow(with and withouth leylines), BUG and Reanimator, with the updated list, the one with 2 pyro.
Also, I didn't notice how bad A.D is vs all those UWR Decks...

Thanks
Bests REgards

[Jay_Gatz]

Split the finals of a 6 round tournament today with Bryant's new list with 2 blasts. I only brought then in for one match so I didn't get to play much with them but I do like them better than carpets

[davelin]

Split the finals of a 6 round tournament today with Bryant's new list with 2 blasts. I only brought then in for one match so I didn't get to play much with them but I do like them better than carpets

Congrats! Remember what you played against?

[Lemnear]

Still lack testing ... atm I tend to just give the basic list a spin for the upcoming covered tourney. Think about giving live-feat here begween rounds...

[Jay_Gatz]

Congrats! Remember what you played against?

In no particular order junk, elves x2, URW x2 (ID then top8) Team America x2 (James Peyton in Swiss and Bob Huang in top4) and Jund. Split the finals with esperblade.

[Kowitz]

So what's the new sideboard looking like? The 1st post still has carpets in the board, I'm curious what people are boarding the blasts in against

[Lemnear]

So what's the new sideboard looking like? The 1st post still has carpets in the board, I'm curious what people are boarding the blasts in against

Blasts took the spot of the Carpets. Boarding the Blasts is no rocket science ... they come in against Meddling Mages, Counterbalance, Delver, Show&Tell, Meerfolk, High Tide, etc.

[Kowitz]

And with this new testing, are you guys running the tropical in the board still as well? I have a tournament this weekend, and I'm going with TES, because it's the deck I have the most playtime with and am most comfortable with. I have just been away from the game for a few months, so I'm trying to catch up on the small changes.

[Lemnear]

And with this new testing, are you guys running the tropical in the board still as well? I have a tournament this weekend, and I'm going with TES, because it's the deck I have the most playtime with and am most comfortable with. I have just been away from the game for a few months, so I'm trying to catch up on the small changes.

The remaining SB stayed the same as the Tropical Supports you with basically 4 additional sources for green (Trop + 3 Fetches) to cast Xantid and Decay as well as presenting an additional manasource against Stifle/Wasteland.

I'm not sure how long you've been away, but noticable changes include the cutting of IGG as well as the altered disruption suit focusing on Cabal Therapy and it's interaction with EtW to Limit/strip your opponents outs for the Goblins in the wake of a changing metagame thanks to TNN and countermeasures which also affect our aggro plan (Golgari charm, zealous Persecution, etc.). Especially the Therapies need a decent Knowledge of the current format; dunno if I would consider it a small change...

[Kowitz]

Thank you for the input! I will have about 2 days to do some play testing with the new sideboard, along with a small tournament at my local shop, before going to a larger event this sunday(I think they are expecting 60+ people, as the prizes are dual lands and fetches)