Didn't Jace bone Liliana at some point in the storyline?Originally Posted by Richard Cheese
Nice catch. But Planeswalkers have a frame with different colors (see: Chandra, Pyromaster) which makes it less notiable.
I can see that they based the new frame of the Planeswalker frame, but the stronger colors of the regular frame just clash too much with the black on any non-black card.
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What is with people on this forum using Autism as an insult? This is the second or third time I've seen this shit here, and probably the second or third time I'm gonna say the following: I have Asperger's syndrome (an Autistic Spectrum disorder like Autism).
While I enjoy reading the variety of opinions about the new frame, there is one regular sentiment that should probably just go away - The 'Designer Credit' isn't a function of the new design, it's a replacement for the flavor text on a small number of cards. To be perfectly honest, I would be very surprised if we saw it again outside of special cards (YMTC, possible invitational replacement, etc...)
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Most of the 'Ban brainstorm!' arguments are based on the logic that 'more different cards should get played in Legacy', as though the success or health of the format can be measured by the portion of cards that are available and see play. This is an idiotic metric.
I think it looks pretty good. Stop crying about change people.
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Humans, by nature, are resistant to change. The mental attachment and feeling that comes with what we know, what we understand, is a small element of safety to us. We tend to resist what is new until proven to be of benefit. Examples such as New Coke come to mind. While many that tasted it preferred it to Old Coke, people would rather get Agresive at the testers than change themselves.
So throwing around insults like suggesting that people here all have Autism is foolish, people are people. Humans act in mostly predictable ways to outside stimulus. In the case of change, we tend to resist. It's really quite simple.
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Fuck. Which one of my quotes do I drop for this?
Most of the comments in this thread aren't complaining about change, they're complaining about how poorly those changes were implemented. You named your font "Beleren" when a large contingent of players already suspect favoritism to blue? Who is the collected information on the bottom of the car _for_? Why didn't you just make the holo-foil thingy the set symbol? Why is the interior of the card extending past its own border? Wouldn't the planeswalker frame have done everything you wanted already?
And the biggest offense of all: Why didn't you do this on a small number of cards first, to measure the community's response?
That's the first thing that occured on my mind. Alas, WotC decided otherwise...
Maybe they think how clever and funny they are? Instead of thinking out pathetic jokes, maybe they could spend some time learning how to respect the opinions of other people.
wcm8, for some of us the aesthetics of a card matter. If you don't care about the change, simply don't follow this thread. I will repeat myself, but w/e: this change further fragmentizes the visual nature of the game and the board states will even more look like if people play several different games at once. You don't care and even have fun of those members of your community that care? Ok, don't care. Simply leave the thread and all is fine. But what is the reason to laugh on frustrated people? Is your life so bad or your ego so hurt that you need to annoy the ppl that share your hobby?
I don't understand you. And although I really appreciate your thoughts on Can Thresh (or generally on Tempo.dec), I'm really bothered by your post and for me you just lost your credit.
Dear mods, ther are two threads on this matter, please, could you merge them together?
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Have you read most of the responses in this thread?
Look. The new frame is fine. Just like the old new frame is fine. Just like every other change WotC has made has been generally fine. If there's one thing I've learned over almost 20 years of Magic, it's that WotC isn't dumb, and that the Magic community as a whole are shrill, hyperbolic whiners.
Would you prefer your children won't have it? If the answer is yes, then it's a negative trait, and it's human nature to use negative traits as an insult. Just because you happen to suffer from it doesn't mean people can't swing that stick at their online foes. A thick skin is a very useful thing to have when one uses these gaming forums.
The card frame looks horrible, mainly due to that coloured frame that ends too high at the bottom of the card. But I won't quit over it, so there's no use to whine too much about it. Anyhow, there's a theory in anthropology that mankind developed speech in order to gossip. My personal theory is that we developed it so we could complain better.
+1. How many of us are stuck in the elementary school playground, here? I've said as much before, but Eternal players used to talk about "community" like it was more than just a head count for the people involved. I don't think anyone expects a round of Kumbaya before a tourney or obligatory Gold Stars for attending Legacy events, but there's no call for this junk anymore.
Anyway, I don't perceive the card frame as a big deal. It just seems funny to institute this kind of counterfeiting measure at this point in the game, but who knows; perhaps the future is longer than the past in terms of the items which lend themselves to the most illicit reproductions. Or, maybe someone knows something I don't know, and there's more reason to risk selling phony Standard junk than there is to go with a sure bet and whip up a fake 20+ year-old Lotus. I dunno.
If this isn't trollbait, you are just plain missing the forest for the trees. For better or worse, The Source isn't the venue to discuss the breadth and depth of your misunderstanding.
I fucking love the new frames. Well, not like I love the old frame sense, but rather that now I'll have a much easier time sorting through boxes of cards.
That begs the question of how much of the new cards I'll buy. At the current trend started with Gatecrash, likely next to zero.
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That's true, but I think the style they've used on planeswalkers looks a lot better than the new one. Though I suppose it helps that planeswalkers get extended art (sort of), and are special cards so a different style fits better.
*Puts on tinfoil hat* That's all because they are going to reprint duals cards and sell them individually.
On a serious note, the irony that thay admit the change-for-the-sake-of-change to slivers' design sucked but are still doing just exactly the same with card frames makes me wanna laugh and cry at the same time.
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Declaring in the open 'I have this or that, don't you dare mock me with it' on a gaming forum of all places (even one as civilized as this one) is the ultimate trollbait.
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The new border looks like someone made a fixed-size border and a text box, and then tried to fit in too much text, causing the text box to extend over the border.
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I'm not going to defend my previous post, because it is immature and potentially inflammatory (and if a moderator truly finds it repulsive, I'd be happy to delete it). However, I find it fairly absurd that something meant as a light-hearted jest at the 'spergin' out' going on over any sort of change in MtG is met with a bunch of outrage, and yet the blatantly misogynist, homophobic, and otherwise bigoted remarks on The Source go completely untouched.
FWIW, I acknowledge my own autistic behaviors and make light of them, rather than go all up in arms about something that wasn't even directed at any particular individual. Take the white-knighting back to Reddit.
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