General bitching about Magic - logistic and accounts only

[mini1337s]

Really Hot Blonde Mums?

That's why I got in this game man ;)

[guillemnicolau]

So I am the only one who hates having to sleeve and unsleeve all the decks several times per month... It's the fucking worst, having to change every sleeve that has a tiny little mark, and having to clean them with alcohol before every fucking tournament..
How can't all of you dislike it?

[danyul]

Alcohol?

Constant resleeving?

Do you have really dirty hands? Or is that the norm? I change sleeves like once every two months at the most.

[mini1337s]

So I am the only one who hates having to sleeve and unsleeve all the decks several times per month... It's the fucking worst, having to change every sleeve that has a tiny little mark, and having to clean them with alcohol before every fucking tournament..
How can't all of you dislike it?

That's unusual. What kind of sleeves are you using?
I'm in the process of putting every card I own in Perfect Fits and Red Mattes, so it's really just a matter of replacing damaged sleeves overtime. It is SOOOOO much easier to put decks together.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

That's unusual. What kind of sleeves are you using?
I'm in the process of putting every card I own in Perfect Fits and Red Mattes, so it's really just a matter of replacing damaged sleeves overtime. It is SOOOOO much easier to put decks together.

I'm in the same process, but I hate is so much and it's such a waste of time and money, that this process is taking several months now - every time I wished to do it, I came to some heavy played River Boas or such and said to myself, "man, you ain't gonna sleeve this garbage!" and then I just said to myself "man, you ain't gonna slleve anything, go watch some movie" and there's where all ended...

[BeardTron]

1) Constant shuffling of the hand...as if new cards will magically appear in your hand if you shuffle them enough. I haven't been playing Magic that long but I just assume some pro...maybe Kibler?...started it, other players saw it and thought "hey, good players do that, so now I will" and then people's justification is even more annoying "It helps me think" or "I can't keep my hands still" blah blah blah. Stop being such a tweak.

2) While I truly enjoy reading articles, and forums and learning more about the game, sometimes there's just an overload of analyzing. SCG folks can take years talking about a Mono Black devotion mirror like they're working out a scientific equation for the Nobel Prize...when it ends up being "whoever sticks a pack rat first wins" ...awesome, glad you talked about it for years, good work. It's like setting up to teach complex Calculus, and then only teach things like "what's 2+2?" Yes, this game requires critical thinking, but sometimes it goes overboard.

[r3dd09]

More upset that SCG is driving the prices up on EVERYTHING. I literally had to spend 300 extra dollars yesterday because they raised their buy price on workshops. Don't get me started on the duals...

[TheAardvark]

I pretty much just hate the players. As a player for 18 years and a small-time dealer and TO for 10+ years, I've dealt with them in various ways, and, especially as a TO, it's often just completely miserable. Bitching about the EV of a free tournament with prizes, bitching about a 30 mile drive to play Standard for an Ancestral Recall (it's too far), and a million other things; it wears you down.

Now, I have had a lot of good times playing the games, and have friends I'd never have met without the game, but it really is the people who play that make the game so miserable (and, conversely, fun) at times.

Oh, and everyone suddenly thinking they are a shark at trading and trying to get value, and not understanding that trading up/down is a thing, or even understanding what trading up/down is.

[Penguinizer]

It's incredibly petty of me, but I hate sleeving decks. It's basically a necessity, but the mindless tedium gets on my nerves. Not to mention the fact that I tend to mash shuffle a tad violently, which means my sleeves get all scratched up very quickly. I basically have to re-sleeve before every tournament and it gets on my nerves.

Sure, there's stuff like the price of cards and whatnot that bothers me, but nothing drives me up the wall like repeatedly re-sleeving my decks.

[Megadeus]

I pretty much just hate the players. As a player for 18 years and a small-time dealer and TO for 10+ years, I've dealt with them in various ways, and, especially as a TO, it's often just completely miserable. Bitching about the EV of a free tournament with prizes, bitching about a 30 mile drive to play Standard for an Ancestral Recall (it's too far), and a million other things; it wears you down.

Now, I have had a lot of good times playing the games, and have friends I'd never have met without the game, but it really is the people who play that make the game so miserable (and, conversely, fun) at times.

Oh, and everyone suddenly thinking they are a shark at trading and trying to get value, and not understanding that trading up/down is a thing, or even understanding what trading up/down is.

So much yes to the trading thing. So annoying

[Amon Amarth]

Jerks are the absolute worst part about magic. I don't know if they're fucking nerds who get picked on so they take it out on their fellow gamers to feel better about themselves or they are just assholes, they suck. Magic is a social game and if the social part becomes unbearable I don't want to play the game. Some of these people are so infuriating even after multiple attempts to try and be a decent person they still douche it up. This is the only time in my life where I've felt like I really wanted to strike a person(s).

Related to the first point, I hate bad, stupid whiny players. Stop telling me to put fucking terrible cards in my Legacy decks. Ugh.

Too fucking expensive. God damn. And I already have nearly every card to play Legacy.

Sorting is a pain but not too bad if you have a system set up and don't let cards pile up and get out of hand.

Sleeving is kinda obnoxious. Double-sleeving is the absolute worst though. Especially if you have a ton of decks.

[Phelix]

i hate making sales lists and keeping them updated.

on the other hand, i finance my my Collections by selling Cards, and i MUST do it (gotta catch em all)

have small allowance, large-ish Collection.

but those damn lists, so fking boring

[rockout]

Every time I think about the size of my collection, the worth, the time I spent amassing it, the other logistics stuff of borrowing legacy decks because the format is stupidly expensive to get into for anyone that doesn't have a decent job, I get sad. I'm happy my collection is worth a ridiculous amount of money but I love legacy more than any other format by extreme leaps and bounds. I'd prefer the cost to get into the format to be lower so it could be even more mainstreamed and I could play FNM Legacy. One decent sized tournament every 2-3 months then 2-3 scg a year can't sustain my magic needs so I also play standard 2-3 times a week usually. Also, screw modo legacy, almost more expensive than real legacy.

[SmallFish]

i hate making sales lists and keeping them updated.

on the other hand, i finance my my Collections by selling Cards, and i MUST do it (gotta catch em all)

have small allowance, large-ish Collection.

but those damn lists, so fking boring

This.

Also, people asking you to hold cards for them for 3-4 days, never getting back to you. When you ask them, they say they can't take them anymore (ie, 75% of people on the FB groups).

[anonymos]

This.

Also, people asking you to hold cards for them for 3-4 days, never getting back to you. When you ask them, they say they can't take them anymore (ie, 75% of people on the FB groups).

So tell them no? Tell them you're trying to make money doing what you're doing. They can get back to you after the 3-4 days and see if you still have it if they actually want it.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

MWS should have been in poll.

Alan plays Pithing Needle from Hand
Pithing Needle's note changed: Thespian Stage
<bongchop> you serious, you see two cards in game one and you bring in a pithing needle? what the fuck is wrong with you? have you ever played legacy before?
<bongchop> fucking noob
<System> Player Lost

/off topic


So, some night last week I sorted my cards. It took me five hours, but it's still a mess. At least it's sorted by colour and alphabet, but that's about it, I can't imagine sleeving the pile (or even sorting it into binders) any time soon.
But what surprised me was MKM. When I started to use the site, I disliked it, but now I find it helpful and quite user-friendly. I should have used it much sooner.

[Megadeus]

"Alan plays Pithing Needle from Hand
Pithing Needle's note changed: Thespian Stage
<bongchop> you serious, you see two cards in game one and you bring in a pithing needle? what the fuck is wrong with you? have you ever played legacy before?
<bongchop> fucking noob
<System> Player Lost"

Shit like this is why free to play magic things on the internet suck total ass.

[apple713]

Scg driving prives through the roof.

Value traders on the play floor. Buy a booth and be upfront about raping people for cardboard

Finding people with cards i need. I have like 99% if cards i want so finding the last few suck

Judges. Everytime one is called i get ruked against. Mainly cause in overly truthful and the other player lies through his teeth. Ive learned to lie too.

The fact that there isnt enough legacy tournaments at good times

How fnm is on friday night instead of sunday morning

Opponents shuffling my foil sneak deck

Games that take 30 min + to finish. High tide / miracles / lands

[survival]

I hate:

-the fact that I can't play irl magic anymore because I'm now a quadriplegic.
-speculators
-value traders
-angry players
-smelly gamers
-prerelease
-players who can't rtfc
-release delay on mtgo
-thieves (the other day some jerk stole a playset of goyfs from me right under my nose but I couldn't do anything because I'm in a f*****g wheelchair)
-legacy on mtgo
-scg
-It's too damn expensive to pimp the last 1% of my cube


What I like:

-judging (I think It's really funny when players try lie to me because I study behavior analysis.)
-teaching kids how to play at my lgs
-pimping my 4 cubes
-my lgs (The other day, as a thank you for being a good Customer my lgs owner payed one of his employee to hold the cards for me so I could play in the big legacy event they were holding.)

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Wow. I'm without words. Honestly, these are moments when I say to myself "man, you're just a little whiny bitch, there are ppl with real troubles".
Also: kudos to your lgs owner!