View Poll Results: Most bannable card in Legacy? (not that they will touch it)

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  • Brainstorm

    16 8.33%
  • Force of Will

    4 2.08%
  • Lion's Eye Diamond

    35 18.23%
  • Counterbalance

    34 17.71%
  • Sensei's Divining Top

    103 53.65%
  • Tarmogoyf

    46 23.96%
  • Phyrexian Dreadnaught

    2 1.04%
  • Goblin Lackey

    4 2.08%
  • Standstill

    6 3.13%
  • Natural Order

    8 4.17%
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Thread: All B/R update speculation.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    11:15, Restate my assumptions:
    1. Mathematics is the language of nature.
    2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers.
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    Therefore, there are patterns everywhere in nature. Evidence:
    • The cycling of disease epidemics
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    • The rise and fall of the Nile
    • The growing and fading cries to ban Brainstorm/unban Survival on the Source
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Is it your sole job to be a comedic ass online? Because everytime I see a post from you, it's spot on and funny as fuck.
    It is better to ask and look stupid then keep your mouth shut and remain so.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Here is your Brainstorm-punisher! Trollolololol

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Cheese View Post
    11:15, Restate my assumptions:
    brb, power drill
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    Gross, other formats. I puked in my mouth a little.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

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    Here is your Brainstorm-punisher! Trollolololol
    It's not a 2-drop and it's not Red. Ergo, it's crap. :P

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Serious suggestion here: why not ban Precursor Golem? It's similar to Worldgorger Dragon in terms of literally breaking the game and forcing a draw: all it takes is for two of them to hit the field and for a spell to target one of them, causing the other to be targeted as well, cauing the first to be targeted again, and so on and so on.

    Either that or unban Worldgorger Dragon.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicLevelCommoner View Post
    Serious suggestion here: why not ban Precursor Golem? It's similar to Worldgorger Dragon in terms of literally breaking the game and forcing a draw: all it takes is for two of them to hit the field and for a spell to target one of them, causing the other to be targeted as well, cauing the first to be targeted again, and so on and so on.

    Either that or unban Worldgorger Dragon.
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=280798

    In case you miss it, copies are not cast, otherwise Storm cards would be BROKEN!!!

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Technics View Post
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=280798

    In case you miss it, copies are not cast, otherwise Storm cards would be BROKEN!!!
    Wait, they are'nt?

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Wait, they are'nt?
    Nope. Otherwise storm card copies would trigger storm which would trigger storm which... Copied cards are put on to the stack and you choose targets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Wait, they are'nt?
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    Nope.
    I think he meant "wait, they aren't already broken?", and by "Nope." I think you meant "yep."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar View Post
    Brainstorm by a mile. It's by far the best and most dominant card in Legacy, any other card on that list is a joke in comparison. However, over the years I have learned that some things never change in Legacy. Among them are the butthurt "ban LED because combo" suggestions, which show obvious lack of understanding of both the format and its history.
    Agreed. LED is nowhere near comparable.

    I predict that fake Chinese prints will get banned.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Led won't be banned until fow is banned and brainstorm would be banned before that, but I would speculate that both fow and led would be a lot worse without brainstorm.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    14 of top 16 decks at SCG tonight were Brainstorm decks. Fwiw.
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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Id be curious to see if giving ponder the ax would nerf blues format dominance while allowing brainstorm to still be played. preordain will fill the cantrip slot and make brainstorm decks rely heavily on fetches for their shuffle effects. I think most people agree blue has an unfair portion of the format with the flip side being the card is unique and vital to keeping combo decks in check. But who knows I think its safe to say b.s. is not going anywhere.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megadeus View Post
    14 of top 16 decks at SCG tonight were Brainstorm decks. Fwiw.
    Welp, they printed a Hatekitty in Born of the Gods, so probably not.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    I just saw it myself, should definitely push maverick, dead guy and death and taxes up the rungs.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    HMMM. wheres the ban tnn crowd? since its been a few months and a handful of tourney results, i figured legacy will bow down to the all mighty 3/1.
    were still playing legacy right? format is still healthy as ever. yay!

    oh. yeah, quote me on that.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpool09 View Post
    HMMM. wheres the ban tnn crowd? since its been a few months and a handful of tourney results, i figured legacy will bow down to the all mighty 3/1.
    were still playing legacy right? format is still healthy as ever. yay!

    oh. yeah, quote me on that.
    Yeah, if you like blue and dislike combo.

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    Re: All B/R update speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadpool09 View Post
    HMMM. wheres the ban tnn crowd? since its been a few months and a handful of tourney results, i figured legacy will bow down to the all mighty 3/1.
    were still playing legacy right? format is still healthy as ever. yay!

    oh. yeah, quote me on that.
    Half of the top 16 of the latest SCG tourney were SFM/TNN, 3 Tempo decks and 3 cheat-fat-creature-into-play-decks ... that's not healthy imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemnear View Post
    Half of the top 16 of the latest SCG tourney were SFM/TNN, 3 Tempo decks and 3 cheat-fat-creature-into-play-decks ... that's not healthy imo

    yeah.... but none of those cards - SFM or TNN is banworth i think...
    And SCG (AKA "MTG Mafia") tourneys shouldn't be the only source to gather data. lol

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