[SCD] Spirit of the Labyrinth

[Megadeus]

Yeah it was a long shot. Really though, Drogskol Captain is a really cool Lord and I would be surprised if Spirit tribal ever became a deck without 6 of these in the main.

sent from phone, don't be a dick

Captain plus Image was very good in standard.

[Humphrey]

why are you guys discussing akward protection, when there is mom? is this mtgsalvation?

[2Rach]

So am I the only one who thinks while this targets (a few) very good and popular cards, that it won't really do much because it doesn't target decks' strategies?

EDIT:
Good card, but to narrow for main deck, better options in sideboard, imo.

[from Cairo]

So am I the only one who thinks while this targets (a few) very good and popular cards, that it won't really do much because it doesn't target decks' strategies?

EDIT:
Good card, but to narrow for main deck, better options in sideboard, imo.

You are not alone.

[Barook]

So am I the only one who thinks while this targets (a few) very good and popular cards, that it won't really do much because it doesn't target decks' strategies?

EDIT:
Good card, but to narrow for main deck, better options in sideboard, imo.

How are draw engines not a deck's strategy?

I agree that it's probably more sideboard stuff, though, but only testing can determine that.

[Lemnear]

How are draw engines not a deck's strategy?

I agree that it's probably more sideboard stuff, though, but only testing can determine that.

The only decks in current Legacy who's draw-engine is their strategy are Spiral Tide (Time Spiral) and OmniTell (Enter the Infinite). For the rest, the draw-engine (does such even exist in Legacy as such? Gush-Bond, Intuition/Accumulated Knowledge, etc. are engines) is Independent from the game strategy as it does not affect your SFM, Ad Nauseam, Show&Tell, etc. directly.

[lavafrogg]

The only decks in current Legacy who's draw-engine is their strategy are Spiral Tide (Time Spiral) and OmniTell (Enter the Infinite). For the rest, the draw-engine (does such even exist in Legacy as such? Gush-Bond, Intuition/Accumulated Knowledge, etc. are engines) is Independent from the game strategy as it does not affect your SFM, Ad Nauseam, Show&Tell, etc. directly.

I would say that the cantrip base that most blue decks play brainstorm/ponder/etc are their draw engine. It is not a card advantage engine but they are a card selection engine for sure. The engine is the reason rug has been good for so long, it is just wayyyyyy too efficient at finding what it needs at the exact time it needs to be found.

[lavafrogg]

is the spirit/anvil interaction any good? Anvil is good with any recursion and the two could wreck combo decks that would have to top deck an instant speed answer very soon or risk their hand being eaten.

[Poron]

So am I the only one who thinks while this targets (a few) very good and popular cards, that it won't really do much because it doesn't target decks' strategies?

EDIT:
Good card, but to narrow for main deck, better options in sideboard, imo.

you mean that after 2-3 mana storm one of this via Vial, doesn't "target decks' strategies"? that's just gg

[lavafrogg]

you mean that after 2-3 mana storm one of this via Vial, doesn't "target decks' strategies"? that's just gg

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary... "Come again?"

[Humphrey]

The only decks in current Legacy who's draw-engine is their strategy are Spiral Tide (Time Spiral) and OmniTell (Enter the Infinite). For the rest, the draw-engine (does such even exist in Legacy as such? Gush-Bond, Intuition/Accumulated Knowledge, etc. are engines) is Independent from the game strategy as it does not affect your SFM, Ad Nauseam, Show&Tell, etc. directly.

Who plays Spiral Tide or Omnitell anyway? The most (successful) played deck with a draw engine is elves. Good morning, Sir.
Also the most played card of the format reads: Draw three


This whole thread is stupid as [insert]

[Zombie]

The only decks in current Legacy who's draw-engine is their strategy are Spiral Tide (Time Spiral) and OmniTell (Enter the Infinite). For the rest, the draw-engine (does such even exist in Legacy as such? Gush-Bond, Intuition/Accumulated Knowledge, etc. are engines) is Independent from the game strategy as it does not affect your SFM, Ad Nauseam, Show&Tell, etc. directly.

You play a deck with two different draw engines, one of which is a win condition itself. You should know.

[Bed Decks Palyer]

you mean that after 2-3 mana storm one of this via Vial, doesn't "target decks' strategies"? that's just gg

Wut?

[Lemnear]

You play a deck with two different draw engines, one of which is a win condition itself. You should know.

Visionary + Symbiote is indeed. Missed the obvious.

[Poron]

In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary... "Come again?"

I'm arguing that this card DO mess with deck strategies. As long as those strategies involve "drawing cards".

ANT, TES and Elves are all decks (whose strategies) are totally messed by this card (and by Ethersworn Canonist).

[Bed Decks Palyer]

I'm arguing that this card DO mess with deck strategies. As long as those strategies involve "drawing cards".

ANT, TES and Elves are all decks (whose strategies) are totally messed by this card (and by Ethersworn Canonist).

Why you mention ANT and TES specifically? Wouldn't "Brainstorm.dec" suffice?

[aluisiocsantos]

If anything you'll trade it for 3 hit points or one less Abrupt Decay.

[Dragonslayer_90]

In relation to how this card affects fair blue decks: I think that this card doesn't out right wreck fair blue decks as it does the combo decks with draw engines mentioned above. I kind of think of it as akin to chalice of the void. Just like Chalice, Spirit make fair blue decks less consistent when it's in play since now the blue player has to play from the top of their deck. This is something their deck is not built to do as well as decks like Death and Taxes, Maverick, and any other deck that may run this. However, I have won thru chalice of the void on 1 turn 1. So, if as a fair blue player, I already have what I need to answer the Spirit in hand or what I need to win, I could care less really. The only thing the spirit will do is either eat removal or prevent me from finding more cards to further or protect my game plan, whatever that may be.

[Lemnear]

I'm arguing that this card DO mess with deck strategies. As long as those strategies involve "drawing cards".

ANT, TES and Elves are all decks (whose strategies) are totally messed by this card (and by Ethersworn Canonist).

Lol ... I suggest reading Ad Nauseam, Infernal Tutor, LED and Burning Wish ... count the numbers of the word "draw".

You picked THE 3 decks that are best suited to resist SotL

[Bed Decks Palyer]

Lol ... I suggest reading Ad Nauseam, Infernal Tutor, LED and Burning Wish ... count the numbers of the word "draw".

You picked THE 3 decks that are best suited to resist SotL

That's why I asked about the first two. I hope Poron meant that the hatecat affects cantrips... but if he meant that it stops AdN...