[Deck] Manaless Ichorid

[Mr. Froggy]

Got the go-ahead to do the new primer.

Perfect! Can't wait to read it!

[ahg113]

My SB is currently

4 Mindbreak Trap
4 Faerie Macabre
4 Nature's Claim
3 Reverent Silence

In the decks I want to board in the anti-hate, my Dryad Arbors are dying before they can do any good. So, where to put a forest or two? Initial thought is for one of the dryad arbors, but that's stupid. Not sure where to make a cut, I'd prefer it to be in the sb. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Cheers,
love this deck

[carefulmug]

@ ahg113

I think the typical protocol would be dedication to either Reverent Silence or Nature's Claim, then +2 fetchland, +1 Forest to SB.

However, if you're running into enough GY hate to justify 7-10 (10 including 2 Fetch, 1 Forest) cards in your SB, that may also suggest you are not running into very much Storm or Belcher (which frequently outraces us with or without hate), so you might be able to cut the Mindbreak Traps.

[Michael Keller]

After years of waiting, I look forward to competing this Sunday with Manaless Dredge @ SCG: Baltimore!

[snorlaxcom]

After years of waiting, I look forward to competing this Sunday with Manaless Dredge @ SCG: Baltimore!

Here's hoping I get to see your zombies in action next to me and not across from me :p

[Mr. Froggy]

After years of waiting, I look forward to competing this Sunday with Manaless Dredge @ SCG: Baltimore!

Good luck! Make us proud!

[ahg113]

@ ahg113

I think the typical protocol would be dedication to either Reverent Silence or Nature's Claim, then +2 fetchland, +1 Forest to SB.

However, if you're running into enough GY hate to justify 7-10 (10 including 2 Fetch, 1 Forest) cards in your SB, that may also suggest you are not running into very much Storm or Belcher (which frequently outraces us with or without hate), so you might be able to cut the Mindbreak Traps.

Failed to mention there's a couple of V. Catacombs in the MD already, 6 total lands, and moving to a 7th to the SB. There have been a few instances in testing that a normally dead wasteland proved detrimental.

[Mr. Froggy]

Failed to mention there's a couple of V. Catacombs in the MD already, 6 total lands, and moving to a 7th to the SB. There have been a few instances in testing that a normally dead wasteland proved detrimental.

I run 3 Forest SB, just in case.

[GoldenCid]

After Reading the last pages i have a question for those who used serum powder.

Was i determinant at any extent?

Was i relevant only in g2?

How did you feel when topdecked it expecting another card?

THx°!

[TableTopMagic]

After years of waiting, I look forward to competing this Sunday with Manaless Dredge @ SCG: Baltimore!

If you seen Feline while your there tell her David said hello! If she isn't sure who your talking about just tell he what deck you are playing and she will know who your talking about. :P I almost talked her into picking up the deck after SCG Milwaukee.

Good luck!

[Michael Keller]

If you seen Feline while your there tell her David said hello! If she isn't sure who your talking about just tell he what deck you are playing and she will know who your talking about. :P I almost talked her into picking up the deck after SCG Milwaukee.

Good luck!

Sorry, guys.

The weather is absolutely atrocious here - I'm snowed the fuck in. I waited until the last minute to see if it would clear up, and it hasn't.

Oh well, guess I get to stay in and work on the new primer...

[TableTopMagic]

Sorry, guys.

The weather is absolutely atrocious here - I'm snowed the fuck in. I waited until the last minute to see if it would clear up, and it hasn't.

Oh well, guess I get to stay in and work on the new primer...

Oh man, that is sucks. I was hoping to see you on camera tomorrow. I just I will just have to look forward to maybe seeing Feline pilot High Tide.

[Mr. Froggy]

Crap.. that sucks.. but at least the primer is coming along. :)

[JonhLightning]

I played in a 24 man tourney yesterday at my local store with Manaless Ichorid yesterday. I had not played Magic in a year and wanted to have some fun. I ran something close to Hollywood deck list with the Serum Powder (minus the fetch, dryad arbor and bloodghast). I went 3-1-1 into top8 then went to top4. Sadly I had to drop was running short on time. I had a blast playing this deck.
My match up were: Game 1 against Punishing Maverick. Game 2 against some kind on Aggro Loam with Dark Depth. Game 3 was against Pox (totally crushed him). Game 4 was an instant draw. Top 8 was against some Pod deck. I won every game using dread return on flayer or beating people down with Ichorid and Nether Shadow. Props Hollywood for your awesome list I had a blast playing it.

[Michael Keller]

I played in a 24 man tourney yesterday at my local store with Manaless Ichorid yesterday. I had not played Magic in a year and wanted to have some fun. I ran something close to Hollywood deck list with the Serum Powder (minus the fetch, dryad arbor and bloodghast). I went 3-1-1 into top8 then went to top4. Sadly I had to drop was running short on time. I had a blast playing this deck.
My match up were: Game 1 against Punishing Maverick. Game 2 against some kind on Aggro Loam with Dark Depth. Game 3 was against Pox (totally crushed him). Game 4 was an instant draw. Top 8 was against some Pod deck. I won every game using dread return on flayer or beating people down with Ichorid and Nether Shadow. Props Hollywood for your awesome list I had a blast playing it.

So, what list exactly did you play?

[JonhLightning]

So, what list exactly did you play?

The list I played was:

4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Golgari Thug
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Shambling Shell
4 Bridge from Below
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Narcomoeba
4 Nether Shadow
4 Ichorid
4 Street Wraith
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Dread Return
4 Phantasmagorian
4 Serum Powder
3 Flayer of the hatebound
1 Flame-Kin Zealot

[Mr. Froggy]

The list I played was:

4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Golgari Thug
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Shambling Shell
4 Bridge from Below
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Narcomoeba
4 Nether Shadow
4 Ichorid
4 Street Wraith
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Dread Return
4 Phantasmagorian
4 Serum Powder
3 Flayer of the hatebound
1 Flame-Kin Zealot

3 Flayer? How did you find that?

EDIT: I've been running Hollywood's old list from way back, and its still kicking-ass. I like it.

Proof of concept:


The second game is more of a blow-out. My opponent was cool about it though. :)

[Michael Keller]

With Manaless, honestly, the core group of cards are so strong that the other flex slots are really just there to have fun with. The old list works just fine and still does what it does.

[kaosjr]

To anyone interested, I piloted my manaless deck to a top 32 finish at SCG Baltimore finishing 7-2. Heres the list I ran.


4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
3 Shambling Shell
4 Dread Return
1 Flayer of the Hatebound
4 Phantasmagorian
4 Street Wraith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Ichorid
4 Nether Shadow
4 Bridge from Below
4 Narcomoeba
4 Chancellor of the Annex
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Balustrade Spy

SB:
4 Force of Will
4 Disrupting Shoal
4 Mindbreak Trap
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Blightsteel Colossus


I originally had played this in the 4 round legacy challenge on Saturday going 4-0 fairly easily so I wanted to try it in the open and it performed beautifully. One match I lost could've easily gone either way for multiple turns, but I couldn't flip another ichorid/phantasmagorian/nether shadow over 3 turns and he got me. Overall I was very impressed with the deck and will probably play it in another open. Also to note, I beat storm, various UWR and BUG decks throughout the day only losing to deathrite shaman once since I couldn't find a second dredger via phantasmagorian.

[Mr. Froggy]

To anyone interested, I piloted my manaless deck to a top 32 finish at SCG Baltimore finishing 7-2. Heres the list I ran.


4 Golgari Grave-Troll
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Golgari Thug
3 Shambling Shell
4 Dread Return
1 Flayer of the Hatebound
4 Phantasmagorian
4 Street Wraith
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Ichorid
4 Nether Shadow
4 Bridge from Below
4 Narcomoeba
4 Chancellor of the Annex
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Balustrade Spy

SB:
4 Force of Will
4 Disrupting Shoal
4 Mindbreak Trap
2 Faerie Macabre
1 Blightsteel Colossus


I originally had played this in the 4 round legacy challenge on Saturday going 4-0 fairly easily so I wanted to try it in the open and it performed beautifully. One match I lost could've easily gone either way for multiple turns, but I couldn't flip another ichorid/phantasmagorian/nether shadow over 3 turns and he got me. Overall I was very impressed with the deck and will probably play it in another open. Also to note, I beat storm, various UWR and BUG decks throughout the day only losing to deathrite shaman once since I couldn't find a second dredger via phantasmagorian.

Nice one! Congrats my man!