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As long as you dont consider winning fun.Originally Posted by DragoFireheart
My stance on the banned list is that if the card when unbanned doesnt sweep the format its probably safe. Legacy is at the point where there is a fair amount of diversity with lots of really strong options. For a card to remain banned it has to be format warping. I would even rather them unban a card let it break the format then reban it instead of not trying to unban it at all.
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Mental Misstep greatly reduced format diversity while forcing decks to run it as a 4-of (lol Goblins) just to have a fightning chance. It was certainly banworthy.It could certainly be unbanned (wasn't really banworthy in the first place imo, and I played storm in that era). But I don't think It's a fun card and it doesn't open up any new decks or archytypes so I still wouldn't like to see it unbanned. The same is true for mind twist imo.
It could certainly be unbanned (wasn't really banworthy in the first place imo, and I played storm in that era
I felt a great disturbance in the storm combo community, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.
This is a little secret about storm: if they don't play enough hate cards, you kill them. I've never seen so few cannonists and goddock teegs in tournaments in my 4 year long storm career as during that era.
You guys dont consider it fun when every deck that isnt running chalice of the void runs 4 MM as their starting point?
God, why does everyone say this? You didn't fucking play MM in Goblins, you just stopped playing Goblins. Just because MM was "colorless" doesn't mean every deck in Legacy wanted to run it or could utilize it as good as the blue decks did. MM pushed out Storm, Reanimator, Dredge, Goblins, Zoo, Elves, and several other decks as a result. You think blue decks are rampant now...it was much worse during that era. MM was attached to the hip to Brainstorm and the fact that you couldn't even play Storm anymore shows how terrible that format was.
I fully understand that people stopped playing Goblins, but for those that actually stuck with the deck, they actually did run MM in it.
That is a list of quite hateful cards. Please explain why they are listed. I have no idea
It's because I am a hateful person and I wanted to express that hate by just listing magic cards.
That's true, mostly because they didn't need them.
This is a little secret about storm: if they don't play enough hate cards, you kill them. I've never seen so few cannonists and goddock teegs in tournaments in my 4 year long storm career as during that era
"Hey, do I need to force this initial dark ritual to prevent him from casting his discard or can I safely wait for the bomb since he doesn't have the discard? Herp derp it doesn't matter since mental misstep makes the decision tree trivial!"
And now they have snapcaster for extra autopilot
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MM and snapcaster would team up ... juhuu.
Basically means you start every blue deck with the same 12 cards instead of the same 8 we have now.
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Unban MM and my blade list is pre - fabricated. I would have like 3-4 slots that I actually got to choose.
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I would cut FoW immediately. Thoughtseize, Misstep, Snare, rape the format
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But why? FoW/MMS/Seize is superior. Snare is kinda narrow and doesn't hit the really important stuff.
Snare should be used though. Sideboard material.
Not quite. Reanimator at the time was the strongest it has been since Mystical was banned. The hate cards were worse and you had 8 hard counters.
Mental Misstep was great in Goblins and Zoo, actually. Death and Taxes would probably play it.
You have to remember that markets and metagames are not actually efficient, people were unnecessarily reluctant to pack MM into non-blue decks. This was a mistake though. MM was good in almost everything. In Legacy it was basically obligatory and if your deck couldn't for some reason fit it, your deck probably sucked.
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Agree here. Especially about goblins. I should have switched to goblins during that time.....
1. Because of Mental Misstep, combo decks were on their way down and durdly control up. That was ripe for Goblins to clean house.
2. Sure Misstep could counter your lackey but Misstep could also counter their bolt on your lackey.
I hope they don't unban Misstep. Man, Combo decks are hurting as it is already. Plus I hate playing against pure control decks.
LOL.... IBA, I remember you claiming that Zoo will benefit most when MM was spoiled and you still seem to hold on to that thought. Fact is MM was best in blue decks because their strategies are more synergistic with counterspells compared to Zoo and Goblins which lose some of their raw power by running a counterspell. NO RUG and UW Stoneblade absolutely dominated the format crushing Goblins and Zoo. To be fair: To really test IBA's claim about non blue creature decks getting better with MM we would have had to run the whole show without Batterskull.
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Reanimator and Dredge did extremely well during MM era, Zoo also saw a decent amount of success.
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