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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

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    Woooo Woooo Woooo, Thank you very much for the report Lem, you are an authentic GOD of STORM !!!!!!!!!!!!
    Slow roll, Bro. The deck serves me pretty well, but there is no reason to go over the top here. Everyone can do good with enough practice and for every tournament I cover here, I have several mediocre local showings. Don't think it's always like that. Maybe part of the Secret is that in those tourneys I have the time to evaluate my moves due to untimed rounds and with the excessive notes I take there, I tend to make less mistakes (compared to hilarious brainfarts I have in local afterwork-events at times lol).
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Thanks for the report, man!
    I can imagine it took forever to write, as it took me close to forever to read.
    Enjoyed every bit of it though.

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    I love that you included your train of thought where you almost missed the easy Tendrils for the win. Nice to know lines of play like that are still almost missed by the best of us. Very reassuring to those of us that aren't nearly as quick with the deck (:
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    Glad you guys liked it :)


    P.S.: the prime german MtG site MTG-Forum.de is an absolute joke. I posted there in the (totally underdeveloped) TES Thread with a link to the article on Eternal Central and IT WAS MARKED AND DELETED AS SPAM!! Seriously, no wonder some deck-techs there are still from 2011...
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    I'd love to hear some testimonies of people who have been playing Pyroblast and Surgical. Has it been working as planned? How exactly do you board it in/against who? Stories of glory? Stories of failure?

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    Went unimpressive 2-3 today at the open. Made some misplays. Showed rust after last minute audible to TES from ANT. Definitely happy I made the switch.

    I misplayed in round 1 when my only source of mana was chrome mox, and I went to Chain of Vapor vs Deadguy and forgot he could copy it and he got me.

    Round 2 was against affinity. He had lethal on board, so I threw a hail Mary needing my PiF to cast ponders and my ponder finally found my burning wish. Game two was t1 empty for 14.

    Round three was vs dredge with brainstorm... ? I had a slow hand but got diminishing returns to reset his yard and won from there the next turn. I suspected he would board in forces and lo and behold, he did. Still didn't matter. He scooped to goblins even though I don't think he was just dead.

    Round 4 Iplayed against jund lands, went with goblins on T1 and he had tabernacle. Game two I end up using my two infernal tutors to get LEDS when he went to get ravens crime and just hoped the top of my deck was good to me. I had to play around crop rotation. Drew infernal and got ad nauseam ftw. Game three, I keep a nice hand that can ad nauseam on turn 1. My opponent goes, mox diamond, faithless looting discarding sire of insanity, reanimate. What?? :((((((

    Round 5 I stopped caring. But still played tough. Game one I saw he was on high tide. Stripped his counters, killed him t3. Lost game two after getting dark ritual instead of Rite of Flame on IT, then end up being a red short of a pif kill. Game three, I go to therapy, he forces. I go to kill, he forces again :/

    Dropped. Rough beats. Losing to jund lands the way I did really hurt. Deck was good to me all day though. Not sure if I'll play it again for the Atlanta open in a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettF View Post
    I'd love to hear some testimonies of people who have been playing Pyroblast and Surgical. Has it been working as planned? How exactly do you board it in/against who? Stories of glory? Stories of failure?
    Only tested Pyroblast so far. It's only been in smaller local events/games so while I haven't put it through a long day of play I think it's a good card for us especially against the generally expected field/card choices on the other side of the table.
    Recent games from the last local events we've had:
    • UR Delver - never drew it; womp womp (EDIT) I should add that I'm not sure if it's as suitable against UR as UWr but G1 we made it to T2 before the kill so a bit of shot in the dark.
    • Deathblade - countering a clique to protect the combo
    • SnS - powering through Spell Pierce for the win


    I've found it more useful than things that used to take its slots in the board.

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    I played them this weekend. Only played vs one blue deck. Definitely should've brought them in.
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    I don't have time to reply in detail at the moment, but I've been using the following sideboard and so far I'm very pleased with it:

    2 Xantid Swarm
    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Chain of Vapor
    1 Thoughtseize
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Diminishing Returns

    I'm playing in a small event tonight with it, so I'll post a reply to the people asking how the Surgical Extractions/Pyroblasts have been after that with my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vercadium View Post
    I don't have time to reply in detail at the moment, but I've been using the following sideboard and so far I'm very pleased with it:

    2 Xantid Swarm
    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Chain of Vapor
    1 Thoughtseize
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Diminishing Returns

    I'm playing in a small event tonight with it, so I'll post a reply to the people asking how the Surgical Extractions/Pyroblasts have been after that with my thoughts.
    This is my exact SB at the moment.

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    A scenario came up on camera from the scg this weekend with ANT vs Deathblade. You're on the draw in game 3 and your opp plays at Polluted Delta and passes.

    You probe and see this hand:
    3x Brainstorm
    1x Rest in Peace
    1x Jace TMS
    1x Stoneforge Mystic

    You have a turn 1 AD at instant speed without needing to tutor. Do you attempt to "get" your opponent by passing the turn and responding to his fetch? I realize this involves ANT in the scenario, but the same scenario could occur with TES.

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    In this sceanrio your opp can do this diferent things:

    1 not crack fetch and draw. Here his draw can be land or fow.
    2 dont crack fetch and dont draw land. Here he should crack on his mp and bs.
    3 crack fetch eot and bs. He will be bs locked but with other bs he can see 2 more cards on his mp2 wich is a total of 5 wich should get him there. And if he draws pierce or so. He can just cast it if he dont finds lamds and is really conservative.
    4 dont crack draw a land and we r fucked into too much options and better quality draws.

    So i think his best plan is option 3 wich gives him to look at 5 cards. And have mana up if he dont draw land but draw pierce.

    So i would just wait there and expecto him to crack eot. If he dosnt do it. We still can made yolo in hus unkeep. Forcing him to tap mana and seeing just 3 cards. So not bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togores View Post
    In this sceanrio your opp can do this diferent things:

    1 not crack fetch and draw. Here his draw can be land or fow.
    2 dont crack fetch and dont draw land. Here he should crack on his mp and bs.
    3 crack fetch eot and bs. He will be bs locked but with other bs he can see 2 more cards on his mp2 wich is a total of 5 wich should get him there. And if he draws pierce or so. He can just cast it if he dont finds lamds and is really conservative.
    4 dont crack draw a land and we r fucked into too much options and better quality draws.

    So i think his best plan is option 3 wich gives him to look at 5 cards. And have mana up if he dont draw land but draw pierce.

    So i would just wait there and expecto him to crack eot. If he dosnt do it. We still can made yolo in hus unkeep. Forcing him to tap mana and seeing just 3 cards. So not bad.
    That's a very stong gameplan, man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Togores View Post
    In this sceanrio your opp can do this diferent things:

    1 not crack fetch and draw. Here his draw can be land or fow.
    2 dont crack fetch and dont draw land. Here he should crack on his mp and bs.
    3 crack fetch eot and bs. He will be bs locked but with other bs he can see 2 more cards on his mp2 wich is a total of 5 wich should get him there. And if he draws pierce or so. He can just cast it if he dont finds lamds and is really conservative.
    4 dont crack draw a land and we r fucked into too much options and better quality draws.

    So i think his best plan is option 3 wich gives him to look at 5 cards. And have mana up if he dont draw land but draw pierce.

    So i would just wait there and expecto him to crack eot. If he dosnt do it. We still can made yolo in hus unkeep. Forcing him to tap mana and seeing just 3 cards. So not bad.
    This assumes passing the turn? No thought on gambling on no Fow in top three cards?

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    I would pass the turn.
    If your opp is a competent player he will crack eot and bs or in his turn.
    If you want to gamble on fow its better to do in his unkeep. Much more playing ant that has not so easy a win with a 0 mana nauseam like tes. And also if this resolves u get to have all cards and not discard eot of your turn.

    Thats just my thoughts.

    But i think the better plan is to nauseam at latest in his unkeep. If he drws land he can see up to 6 cards. And now he can only see 3 is mana and bs locked and u only lost 3 cards (expecting land dr dr ad) and he lost 2 so ur just a card down in a deck that can win with pif really easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mario91234 View Post
    A scenario came up on camera from the scg this weekend with ANT vs Deathblade. You're on the draw in game 3 and your opp plays at Polluted Delta and passes.

    You probe and see this hand:
    3x Brainstorm
    1x Rest in Peace
    1x Jace TMS
    1x Stoneforge Mystic

    You have a turn 1 AD at instant speed without needing to tutor. Do you attempt to "get" your opponent by passing the turn and responding to his fetch? I realize this involves ANT in the scenario, but the same scenario could occur with TES.
    The lack of context makes answering this question really difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royce Walter View Post
    The lack of context makes answering this question really difficult.
    Guess there is enough Information available. Opponents hand and field is known as you being able to cast Ad Nauseam at instant speed from your hand. The question was, WHEN to make use of this fact.

    Togores rightfully plots to respond to an eot fetch with Ad Nauseam first and opts to gamble against a Brainstorm finding FoW during his opponents upkeep, if the opponent, FOR WHATEVER REASON, doesn't want to trade in one of his 3 Brainstorms for value at eot.

    I would do this myself any day of the week.
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    Re: [Deck] T.E.S. - The EPIC Storm

    Yuhuuuu +1 for me^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by vercadium View Post
    I don't have time to reply in detail at the moment, but I've been using the following sideboard and so far I'm very pleased with it:

    2 Xantid Swarm
    2 Abrupt Decay
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Surgical Extraction
    1 Chain of Vapor
    1 Thoughtseize
    1 Grapeshot
    1 Empty the Warrens
    1 Tendrils of Agony
    1 Past in Flames
    1 Diminishing Returns

    I'm playing in a small event tonight with it, so I'll post a reply to the people asking how the Surgical Extractions/Pyroblasts have been after that with my thoughts.
    This is the sideboard I'm planning to run during the Grand Prix in Paris.
    However, I'm sorta on the fence about the Death n Taxes matchup. I remember it used to be a annoying matchup even when 3 Chain of Vapor were in the sideboard.

    I've pondered about replacing 1 Surgical with 1 Karakas. As it's also great against Reanimator (also better against Exhume), SneakShow and also against Thalia/Teeg/Ruric Thar.

    Any thoughts on this? Or any thoughts in general for the upcoming Grand Prix?

    Thanks in advance!
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    I think that 90% of the time, with 3 BS in hand and stuck on 1 land, the miracle player will eot BS, attempting to find land and counterbalance or something of the sort. So I like in response to fetch Ad Nauseam.
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